[Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL availability in DSM metro

Wed Jan 19 15:16:13 CST 2011

If the cabinet looks like this:
http://www.emersonnetworkpower.com/en-US/Products/OutsidePlant/ensys_BuriedDistribution/MultiPurposeCabinets/PublishingImages/CoolPed+%20Splice%20Cabinets/CoolPed+-Splice-Cabinets_1_small.png

They need to either add another cabinet adjacent or if there's room inside they can put another DSLAM in the same cabinet. 

Dave

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org 
> [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of bofh at visi.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 3:07 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL 
> availability in DSM metro
> 
> Yep, I know it's expensive.  I was involved in some FTTH 
> design and builds a few years back.  However, in my area, 
> most of the pedestal deployments were done 5-6 years ago. 
> What the component upgrade costs for those pedestals would be 
> now, I'm not certain.
> 
> However, Qwest may not have much of a choice.  If Mediacom 
> would get their act together, and LTE (oooh...4G!) or WiMAX 
> deployments move into the area (bugs and bandwidth caps 
> notwithstanding), Qwest could find themselves in a world of 
> hurt on the residential side.
> 
> Like I mentioned earlier, when the places that the boondocks 
> consider boondocks are rolling out high-speed DSL (7+ Mb/s), 
> there's a problem.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:26:59 -0600
>   Dave Weis <djweis at internetsolver.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I think there might be some confusion as to what it 
> actually costs to 
> >do the FTTN upgrades/installs. We (Internet Solver) have 
> done similar 
> >projects but not on the same scale as Qwest obviously. From what we 
> >have seen, just the equipment in the box on the side of the road is 
> >$10k+, then add in the labor to set the pedestal, bring the fiber to 
> >the area, etc, it's easily $30k on up.
> >Cities are divided up into distribution areas which usually have 
> >100-200 homes in them. You need to install a box like this in each 
> >distribution area. There is also the problem of right of 
> way, getting 
> >permission to install the box, getting permits, getting power, etc.
> >After you get all of this outside work done, you need to 
> aggregate all 
> >of the fiber and route the traffic. I've seen some of the equipment 
> >that has been installed to support this and it's absolutely 
> massive and 
> >brutally expensive.
> > 
> > dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > ________________________________
> >From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org
> >[mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of PAUL COWLEY
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:37 PM
> > To: cialug at cialug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL 
> availability in DSM 
> >metro
> > 
> > Qwest FINALLY executed on their plans to bring FTTN in my 
> neighborhood 
> >in Ames over the past couple of months...
> >as well as a change from ADSL to VDSL.  However, this was after at 
> >least two years of telling other potential customers (my next-door 
> >neighbors!) that DSL wasn't available in the area at any 
> cost.  I can 
> >only assume this was due to lack of available ports in the DSLAM.
> > 
> > That said, I've submitted an order to upgrade from 1.5Mbps 
> to 12Mbps 
> >(the top speed they're offering), due to install next 
> Monday.  I'm not 
> >complaining about 12Mbps, but it's a far cry from the 40Mbps they're 
> >advertising... even with brand-new fiber and VDSL equipment 
> - all in a 
> >new neighborhood with (presumably) good enough quality copper to the 
> >home to support the higher speeds.
> > 
> > What I don't quite understand is why Qwest seems so 
> unwilling to make 
> >ANY investment into their infrastructure, even in core areas 
> where the 
> >payoff should be relatively fast.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Paul
> > KB7VML
> > 
> >> From: bofh at visi.com
> >> To: cialug at cialug.org
> >> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:19:31 -0600
> >> Subject: Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL availability in 
> >>DSM metro
> >>
> >> I just called Qwest, and received the runaround again:
> >> "With the New Year, they're looking at upgrades, but we don't know 
> >> where or when".  As I told them, I dislike Mediacom (left 
> them due to 
> >> the outages), but I'm about ready to leave Qwest--and will 
> drop the 
> >> voice line.
> >>
> >> Seems like everyplace I go outside the Des Moines metro  
> area has no 
> >>problem with getting high-speed (7 Mb/s+)  connections--metros and 
> >>rural areas alike. Des Moines has  become an even worse technology 
> >>backwater than it was.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:53:09 -0600
> >> jrnosee <jrnosee at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I concur. I live on the border of Waukee and
> >>Clive/Urbandale. Every time I check it says I'm only able 
> to get a 1.5 
> >>> connection.  (Although I have gotten some reports that it 
> may be due 
> >>to no open 7mbps+ ports free on our
> >> > DSLAM?!).
> >> >
> >> > I REALLY want to drop Mediacom. We loose our
> >>connection or most of our bandwidth on cable at the drop of a
> >> > hat. I got home Monday night to .9mbps downstream. 
> >>0.9!!!!! on a 12mbps connection! Does anyone know any
> >> > outdoor cable monkeys for mediacom? They were supposed
> >>to come put a new line in for us MONTHS ago and
> >> > never did. They just keep sending the indoor guys who
> >>scratch their (butts) heads and say "well, it's fine
> >> > right now."
> >> >
> >> > Seriously... Any takers? $20 on that being the outcome
> >>of yet ANOTHER mediacom appointment I've got
> >> > tomorrow morning.
> >> >
> >> > At least they dropped my price for all the hassle I've
> >>had.
> >>
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