[Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL availability in DSM metro

[bofh at visi.com]

Yep, I know it's expensive.  I was involved in some FTTH 
design and builds a few years back.  However, in my area, 
most of the pedestal deployments were done 5-6 years ago.  
What the component upgrade costs for those pedestals would 
be now, I'm not certain.

However, Qwest may not have much of a choice.  If Mediacom 
would get their act together, and LTE (oooh...4G!) or 
WiMAX deployments move into the area (bugs and bandwidth 
caps notwithstanding), Qwest could find themselves in a 
world of hurt on the residential side.

Like I mentioned earlier, when the places that the 
boondocks consider boondocks are rolling out high-speed 
DSL (7+ Mb/s), there's a problem.



On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:26:59 -0600
  Dave Weis <djweis at internetsolver.com> wrote:
> 
> I think there might be some confusion as to what it 
>actually costs to do the FTTN upgrades/installs. We 
>(Internet Solver) have done similar projects but not on 
>the same scale as Qwest obviously. From what we have 
>seen, just the equipment in the box on the side of the 
>road is $10k+, then add in the labor to set the pedestal, 
>bring the fiber to the area, etc, it's easily $30k on up. 
>Cities are divided up into distribution areas which 
>usually have 100-200 homes in them. You need to install a 
>box like this in each distribution area. There is also 
>the problem of right of way, getting permission to 
>install the box, getting permits, getting power, etc. 
>After you get all of this outside work done, you need to 
>aggregate all of the fiber and route the traffic. I've 
>seen some of the equipment that has been installed to 
>support this and it's absolutely massive and brutally 
>expensive.
> 
> dave
> 
> 
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>From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org 
>[mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of PAUL 
>COWLEY
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:37 PM
> To: cialug at cialug.org
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL 
>availability in DSM metro
> 
> Qwest FINALLY executed on their plans to bring FTTN in 
>my neighborhood in Ames over the past couple of months... 
>as well as a change from ADSL to VDSL.  However, this was 
>after at least two years of telling other potential 
>customers (my next-door neighbors!) that DSL wasn't 
>available in the area at any cost.  I can only assume 
>this was due to lack of available ports in the DSLAM.
> 
> That said, I've submitted an order to upgrade from 
>1.5Mbps to 12Mbps (the top speed they're offering), due 
>to install next Monday.  I'm not complaining about 
>12Mbps, but it's a far cry from the 40Mbps they're 
>advertising... even with brand-new fiber and VDSL 
>equipment - all in a new neighborhood with (presumably) 
>good enough quality copper to the home to support the 
>higher speeds.
> 
> What I don't quite understand is why Qwest seems so 
>unwilling to make ANY investment into their 
>infrastructure, even in core areas where the payoff 
>should be relatively fast.
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> KB7VML
> 
>> From: bofh at visi.com
>> To: cialug at cialug.org
>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:19:31 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL 
>>availability in DSM metro
>>
>> I just called Qwest, and received the runaround again:
>> "With the New Year, they're looking at upgrades, but we
>> don't know where or when".  As I told them, I dislike
>> Mediacom (left them due to the outages), but I'm about
>> ready to leave Qwest--and will drop the voice line.
>>
>> Seems like everyplace I go outside the Des Moines metro
>> area has no problem with getting high-speed (7 Mb/s+)
>> connections--metros and rural areas alike. Des Moines 
>>has
>> become an even worse technology backwater than it was.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:53:09 -0600
>> jrnosee <jrnosee at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I concur. I live on the border of Waukee and 
>>Clive/Urbandale. Every time I check it says I'm only able 
>>to get a 1.5 > connection.  (Although I have gotten some 
>>reports that it may be due to no open 7mbps+ ports free 
>>on our
>> > DSLAM?!).
>> >
>> > I REALLY want to drop Mediacom. We loose our 
>>connection or most of our bandwidth on cable at the drop 
>>of a
>> > hat. I got home Monday night to .9mbps downstream. 
>>0.9!!!!! on a 12mbps connection! Does anyone know any
>> > outdoor cable monkeys for mediacom? They were supposed 
>>to come put a new line in for us MONTHS ago and
>> > never did. They just keep sending the indoor guys who 
>>scratch their (butts) heads and say "well, it's fine
>> > right now."
>> >
>> > Seriously... Any takers? $20 on that being the outcome 
>>of yet ANOTHER mediacom appointment I've got
>> > tomorrow morning.
>> >
>> > At least they dropped my price for all the hassle I've 
>>had.
>>
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