[Cialug] Call for lightning talks - Wednesday
carl-olsen at mchsi.com
carl-olsen at mchsi.com
Mon Jul 17 15:03:01 CDT 2006
I see they have 10 on their website this morning, but when I click on the package descriptions for SLED 10, I get the list for Novell Linux Desktop 9. The only question I have is what packages are available for SLED 10 and whether I can host websites on it like I'm doing with SLP 9.3.
-------------- Original message from "Josh More" <morej at alliancetechnologies.net>: --------------
> First of all, let me clear up a misunderstanding. *all* versions of
> SUSE are the
> "open source" version. They're just not all free. They all contain
> some
> closed source software. Here are the differences:
>
> 1) OpenSUSE
>
> This is a project like Fedora or Ubuntu. It is available, for free, to
> anyone
> who wishes to download it. If you wish to pay for it, you can also
> get
> Novell support. It tends to have a six month lifetime, after which it
> is replaced
> by a new minor number. Emphasis is on new and experimentalism. As
> such,
> this is best aimed at power users, who can deal with the rough edges to
> get
> the best tools. When the minor number hits 1, it becomes:
>
> 2) SUSE Core
>
> This is the base for the other SUSE/Novell Linux versions. It is
> considered
> stable, and is supported for 7 years from release. It can be
> downloaded
> as part of the products below, for free, as an evaluation. Support
> costs money.
>
> 3) SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES)
>
> This is a distribution intended to be used as a server. Emphasis is on
> security
> and stability. Versions 9 and 10 are available, based on Core 9, and
> Core 10
> respectively. Consider it similar to RHEL in purpose, though somewhat
> different in support and 3rd party apps (like App Armor and full Xen
> support)
>
> 4) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED except in the Netherlands)
>
> This is a distribution intended to be used as a desktop (duh).
> Emphasis
> here is on usability. This is the Linux intended to be used by "normal
> people".
> It has all the glitz and glamor with minimal rough edges. It does
> *not* have
> the latest and greatest foo.whatever. Stability still matters.
> Versions 9 and
> 10 are available. 9 is intended to be used by call center people, and
> data entry folks. 10 is intended to be used by general office
> workers.
> Neither is intended to be used by power users.
>
> 5) Open Enterprise Server (OES)
>
> This is basically SLES with Novell services. It natively supports NSS,
> iFolder, iPrint,
> GroupWise, and the standard Novell/Netware fare. It is intended to
> replace
> Netware and MS Small Business Server. There a nice new bundle that
> includes
> OES, Groupwise, OpenOffice and (optionally) Linux Desktop. This tends
> to be
> much cheaper per user than MS Small Business Server, and it's all open
> source.
> (go ahead, get excited now). Currently, it is only available in
> version 9, but version
> 10 is expected once SLES 10 stabilizes.
>
> 6) Novell Linux Point of Service (LPOS)
>
> This is a version of Linux that runs well on cash registers and like
> machines.
> It has native hardware support and includes the fancy Java tools that
> this
> hardware requires. I have very little experience with this other than
> a basic
> install. I think that only version 9 is currently available.
>
> 7) Netware 6.5
>
> What am I doing? Netware isn't Linux! Well, actually, Novell
> announced
> that they will support Netware for 13 years (from last March) when it
> is
> running inside Xen on SLES 10 (and theoretically, all other versions of
> SLES).
>
>
> In general:
>
> If you are a hobbiest or hacker, use OpenSUSE
> If you are in the business world and need a server, use SLES
> If you are in the business world and need a desktop, use SLED
> If you are in the business world and need a one-box-fits-all, use OES
>
> If you have more questions, feel free to ask me at the LUG meeting on
> Wed.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> -Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP
> morej at alliancetechnologies.net
> 515-245-7701
>
>
> >>> "Carl Olsen" 07/16/06 8:56 PM >>>
> I'd also like to start using Java and JSP, so I'm interested in Tomcat
> as
> well, but I think this release is going to have Geronimo. What can you
> tell
> me about Java/JSP support on this new release?
>
> ----- Original Message-----
> From: cialug- bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug- bounces at cialug.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Carl Olsen
> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:54 PM
> To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Call for lightning talks - Wednesday
>
> I was just about to install SUSE 10.1 (the open source version), but
> when I
> read your email I decided to wait until tomorrow. What is the
> difference
> between the open source version and the SUSE Linux Desktop 10 version
> that
> is being released tomorrow? I see the price for Novell Linux
> Enterprise
> Desktop 9 is around $35 on their web site. I believe you can buy the
> open
> source version, but the price is actually higher than $35. I don't
> quite
> understand the difference. I'm interested in Apache 2, PHP 5, and
> MySQL 5,
> and I'm also using PostgreSQL 8 and Mono 1.1.
>
> Carl Olsen
> Web Developer
> Drake University
>
> ----- Original Message-----
> From: cialug- bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug- bounces at cialug.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Josh More
> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:52 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: [Cialug] Call for lightning talks - Wednesday
>
> OK, we have 10- 20 minutes allocated for SFD (in case it runs long).
>
> This means that we can handle 6- 8 lightning talks.
> ( http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=Lightning+Talks )
>
> I have signed myself up to give a talk on SUSE Linux Desktop 10, which
> is expected to be released this Monday.
> If it doesn't pan out, I'll find something else.
>
> If there is a talk you would like to give, sign up at
> http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=Meeting+Agenda
> or email me, and I will sign you up myself.
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone on Wed.
>
>
>
>
> --
> - Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP
> morej at alliancetechnologies.net
> 515- 245- 7701
>
>
> >>> "Kevin C. Smith" 07/16/06 1:46 PM >>>
> On Sun, 2006- 07- 16 at 13:33 - 0500, Josh More wrote:
> > According the wiki, our meeting this Wednesday will be focused on
> > Software Freedom Day.
> >
> > My questions:
> >
> > 1) Will SFD take up the entire meeting?
>
> No. 10 minutes
>
> > 2) If not, does anyone here have a topic that they would like to
> > present?
> > 3) Failing that, does anyone here have a topic that they would like
> to
> > see presented?
>
> --
> IT is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect
> and expose delusion and error. But nature has not given to everyone a
> talent for the purpose; and among those to whom such a talent is
> given,
> there is often a want of disposition or of courage to do it.
> -- Thomas Paine
>
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