[DM-MUG] Leopard runs hotter?

jim lagnese jlagnese at gmail.com
Sat Nov 3 16:34:56 CDT 2007 

Caches are located in:

/System/Library/Caches
/Library/Caches
~/Library/Caches

Delete everything in those folders and then reboot.




//On 11/3/07 4:27 PM, "Roses Derise" <homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net> wrote:

> How do I trash the caches?
> 
> 
> On 11/3/07 2:15 PM, "Don Patridge" <donald.patridge at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=2007110110052021
>> 
>> There's a article on Macfixit.com about all of this.
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2007, at 1:45 PM, jim lagnese wrote:
>> 
>>> Trash your caches as well. Once upon a time I was having temps around 160,
>>> even with the fans full blast, even through reboots. I deleted all the
>>> caches and it returned to normal. Go figure. Still, set to 4000 rpm, my
>>> temps have been 111-120 with leopard, and Tiger usually would be 120-130.
>>> The computer is a MBP 17/2.33
>>> 
>>> 
>>> //On 11/3/07 12:03 PM, "Roses Derise" <homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> After getting our feedback, I re-plugged in the external hard drive and
>>>> left 
>>>> it on all night so I could test it again. When I opened it up in this
>>>> morning about 8:30, the computer was cool to touch but the fan started
>>>> running immediately, a sound which is to me like fingernails on
>>>> chalkboards, 
>>>> and which I had solved on Tiger with the aid of an air desk and smc fan
>>>> control. The heat would still get bad and the fan would come on when the
>>>> computer heated up after a long day of working and/or gaming or loading up
>>>> a 
>>>> big program or had a lot of programs open at the same time. Other than
>>>> those 
>>>> times the heat was acceptable and the fan was blessedly silent.
>>>> 
>>>> This morning, I let it run for a while to see if it was just a
>>>> waking/warming up thing but the fan didn't shut off so about a half-hour
>>>> later I unplugged the external hard drive to shut off time machine. Even
>>>> so, 
>>>> the fan has continued to run continuously for the last nearly three hours,
>>>> which says that the fan/heat is not from Time Machine, so I was wrong on
>>>> that.  I have no open programs except Microsoft Word and Entourage  The
>>>> temp 
>>>> is at 145 degrees and the temp record since I got Leopard is overall higher
>>>> so the only thing I can conclude is that Leopard runs hotter.
>>>> 
>>>> I then went to Apple on-line support for Leopard and found others were
>>>> complaining of the same issue--heat and noise. If any of you have any fixes
>>>> for this, I (and presumably those at the apple support place (key words
>>>> leopard runs hot) would really appreciate it. Otherwise, I plan to
>>>> uninstall 
>>>> it and go back to Tiger.
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/2/07 2:57 PM, "Roses Derise" <homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I did let it run, as you said it took several hours...my complaint was
>>>>> from 
>>>>> what happened afterwards.  Re the radar, that's what got my attention,
>>>>> that 
>>>>> I was suddenly noticing after a relatively long period of not noticing,
>>>>> and 
>>>>> in fact not even thinking about it, like finding myself having to stop
>>>>> earlier in the day because of the heat (those of you who with desk models
>>>>> don't have to have your hands directly on a hot metal surface so might not
>>>>> notice any extra heat)  even after disconnecting the back up disk.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (And I do have smc fan control but had to set it to a different setting to
>>>>> keep it from coming on so often.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let's hope you are right, that it is somehow in my "radar" or something
>>>>> this 
>>>>> computer illiterate is doing wrong that can be fixed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/2/07 11:30 AM, "Bryan Baker" <ka_klick at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, if you only let it run for ~10 min it probably didn't have time
>>>>>> to finish it's first full backup. The problem is, that it needs a
>>>>>> place to start, so it needs a FULL backup of the system - that's
>>>>>> everything. I'd be surprised if it took less than 10. Once this is
>>>>>> done once, most of what it does is make copies of anything that
>>>>>> changed since the last one, so those should be almost unnoticeable.
>>>>>> That's the theory. This is being typed by someone who has a shrink-
>>>>>> wrapped copy of Leopard on his desk, not someone who's already
>>>>>> running it, but I remember having to walk away from in-progress Tiger
>>>>>> first boots because the dang indexing was taking hours.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's also possible that your "radar" is up, and that while it is
>>>>>> currently "hotter" over time the power consumption will decrease as
>>>>>> the system finishes all the stuff it's doing behind the scenes in the
>>>>>> background. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Roses Derise wrote:
>>>>>>> Also 109.99 at macmall with rebate for shipping.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So far, I feel regret that I bought Leopard. A lot of little things
>>>>>>> don't 
>>>>>>> seem to work well--such as some (but not all) the little yellow memory
>>>>>>> strips (such as the ones that pop up, say, account numbers), and my
>>>>>>> printer 
>>>>>>> drive not loading properly on start-up. As some of you have said, I
>>>>>>> don't 
>>>>>>> like the folders and even though I am not a fan of dark colors, I
>>>>>>> do seem to 
>>>>>>> have adapted to the black dock and I do feel some admiration for
>>>>>>> the sleek 
>>>>>>> designing. I like the stationary in Mail and I love the Spaces
>>>>>>> feature and
>>>>>>> other things that someone here wrote was just cosmetic stuff, which
>>>>>>> I agree. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My biggest complaint, and for me its a big deal, is that I suspect
>>>>>>> that on 
>>>>>>> my Macbook Pro where my hands on directly on the machine, Leopard runs
>>>>>>> hotter than Tiger.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I bought Leopard primarily because of Time Machine. As a writer,
>>>>>>> even ten 
>>>>>>> minutes of lost work can be major, like an artist losing carefully
>>>>>>> laid down 
>>>>>>> brush strokes. But within a few minutes of using it, I unplugged it,
>>>>>>> realizing that that I'd have been smarter to take the time to use a
>>>>>>> $20 
>>>>>>> flash drive every so often because, with Time Machine running, the
>>>>>>> computer 
>>>>>>> heats up a lot more, driving me nuts when I am trying to focus on
>>>>>>> creative 
>>>>>>> work with that irritating noise of the fan running and from the
>>>>>>> heat on my 
>>>>>>> palms. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm sure Apple will come along with fixes for the bugs and that
>>>>>>> over time 
>>>>>>> I'll adapt to the changes, but as someone who is not computer savvy
>>>>>>> and can 
>>>>>>> only review from a superficial level, at this point, I can't say
>>>>>>> getting 
>>>>>>> Leopard was worth the price.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Roses 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/2/07 10:19 AM, "Russ & Marilyn Carlson" <marruss at crosspaths.net>
>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>> 
I don't know if anyone is interested given the recent reports but
Leopard is on sale at CompUSA for the next two days Friday and
Saturday.  It is selling for $109.99 a $20.00 reduction.  Des Moines
Register Nov. 2  page 3A.

Russ 
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