[DM-MUG] Leopard runs hotter?

Sat Nov 3 14:15:26 CDT 2007

http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=2007110110052021

There's a article on Macfixit.com about all of this.

On Nov 3, 2007, at 1:45 PM, jim lagnese wrote:

> Trash your caches as well. Once upon a time I was having temps around 
> 160,
> even with the fans full blast, even through reboots. I deleted all the
> caches and it returned to normal. Go figure. Still, set to 4000 rpm, my
> temps have been 111-120 with leopard, and Tiger usually would be 
> 120-130.
> The computer is a MBP 17/2.33
>
>
> //On 11/3/07 12:03 PM, "Roses Derise" <homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> After getting our feedback, I re-plugged in the external hard drive 
>> and left
>> it on all night so I could test it again. When I opened it up in this
>> morning about 8:30, the computer was cool to touch but the fan started
>> running immediately, a sound which is to me like fingernails on 
>> chalkboards,
>> and which I had solved on Tiger with the aid of an air desk and smc 
>> fan
>> control. The heat would still get bad and the fan would come on when 
>> the
>> computer heated up after a long day of working and/or gaming or 
>> loading up a
>> big program or had a lot of programs open at the same time. Other 
>> than those
>> times the heat was acceptable and the fan was blessedly silent.
>>
>> This morning, I let it run for a while to see if it was just a
>> waking/warming up thing but the fan didn't shut off so about a 
>> half-hour
>> later I unplugged the external hard drive to shut off time machine. 
>> Even so,
>> the fan has continued to run continuously for the last nearly three 
>> hours,
>> which says that the fan/heat is not from Time Machine, so I was wrong 
>> on
>> that.  I have no open programs except Microsoft Word and Entourage  
>> The temp
>> is at 145 degrees and the temp record since I got Leopard is overall 
>> higher
>> so the only thing I can conclude is that Leopard runs hotter.
>>
>> I then went to Apple on-line support for Leopard and found others were
>> complaining of the same issue--heat and noise. If any of you have any 
>> fixes
>> for this, I (and presumably those at the apple support place (key 
>> words
>> leopard runs hot) would really appreciate it. Otherwise, I plan to 
>> uninstall
>> it and go back to Tiger.
>>
>> On 11/2/07 2:57 PM, "Roses Derise" <homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I did let it run, as you said it took several hours...my complaint 
>>> was from
>>> what happened afterwards.  Re the radar, that's what got my 
>>> attention, that
>>> I was suddenly noticing after a relatively long period of not 
>>> noticing, and
>>> in fact not even thinking about it, like finding myself having to 
>>> stop
>>> earlier in the day because of the heat (those of you who with desk 
>>> models
>>> don't have to have your hands directly on a hot metal surface so 
>>> might not
>>> notice any extra heat)  even after disconnecting the back up disk.
>>>
>>> (And I do have smc fan control but had to set it to a different 
>>> setting to
>>> keep it from coming on so often.)
>>>
>>> Let's hope you are right, that it is somehow in my "radar" or 
>>> something this
>>> computer illiterate is doing wrong that can be fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/2/07 11:30 AM, "Bryan Baker" <ka_klick at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, if you only let it run for ~10 min it probably didn't have 
>>>> time
>>>> to finish it's first full backup. The problem is, that it needs a
>>>> place to start, so it needs a FULL backup of the system - that's
>>>> everything. I'd be surprised if it took less than 10. Once this is
>>>> done once, most of what it does is make copies of anything that
>>>> changed since the last one, so those should be almost unnoticeable.
>>>> That's the theory. This is being typed by someone who has a shrink-
>>>> wrapped copy of Leopard on his desk, not someone who's already
>>>> running it, but I remember having to walk away from in-progress 
>>>> Tiger
>>>> first boots because the dang indexing was taking hours.
>>>>
>>>> It's also possible that your "radar" is up, and that while it is
>>>> currently "hotter" over time the power consumption will decrease as
>>>> the system finishes all the stuff it's doing behind the scenes in 
>>>> the
>>>> background.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Roses Derise wrote:
>>>>> Also 109.99 at macmall with rebate for shipping.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, I feel regret that I bought Leopard. A lot of little things
>>>>> don't
>>>>> seem to work well--such as some (but not all) the little yellow 
>>>>> memory
>>>>> strips (such as the ones that pop up, say, account numbers), and my
>>>>> printer
>>>>> drive not loading properly on start-up. As some of you have said, I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> like the folders and even though I am not a fan of dark colors, I
>>>>> do seem to
>>>>> have adapted to the black dock and I do feel some admiration for
>>>>> the sleek
>>>>> designing. I like the stationary in Mail and I love the Spaces
>>>>> feature and
>>>>> other things that someone here wrote was just cosmetic stuff, which
>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>
>>>>> My biggest complaint, and for me its a big deal, is that I suspect
>>>>> that on
>>>>> my Macbook Pro where my hands on directly on the machine, Leopard 
>>>>> runs
>>>>> hotter than Tiger.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bought Leopard primarily because of Time Machine. As a writer,
>>>>> even ten
>>>>> minutes of lost work can be major, like an artist losing carefully
>>>>> laid down
>>>>> brush strokes. But within a few minutes of using it, I unplugged 
>>>>> it,
>>>>> realizing that that I'd have been smarter to take the time to use a
>>>>> $20
>>>>> flash drive every so often because, with Time Machine running, the
>>>>> computer
>>>>> heats up a lot more, driving me nuts when I am trying to focus on
>>>>> creative
>>>>> work with that irritating noise of the fan running and from the
>>>>> heat on my
>>>>> palms.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure Apple will come along with fixes for the bugs and that
>>>>> over time
>>>>> I'll adapt to the changes, but as someone who is not computer savvy
>>>>> and can
>>>>> only review from a superficial level, at this point, I can't say
>>>>> getting
>>>>> Leopard was worth the price.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roses
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/2/07 10:19 AM, "Russ & Marilyn Carlson" 
>>>>> <marruss at crosspaths.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if anyone is interested given the recent reports but
>>>>>> Leopard is on sale at CompUSA for the next two days Friday and
>>>>>> Saturday.  It is selling for $109.99 a $20.00 reduction.  Des 
>>>>>> Moines
>>>>>> Register Nov. 2  page 3A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russ
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