[Cialug] What's a JSON Document?

Dave Hala dave at 58ghz.net
Thu Aug 30 18:25:57 UTC 2018


I wonder if being loosely defined is actually problematic in practice? Has
anyone ever ran into a situation where exchanging data via json didn't work?

:) Dave

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:08 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:

> Since JSON often gets de-serialized, i tend to think of it as conforming to
> a JavaScript "object".  Meaning "one object with many properties, or nested
> objects/arrays"
>
> The problem (or advantage maybe) is that JSON is extremely loosely defined
> (as you have noticed).
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:06 AM Todd Walton <tdwalton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I know what JSON is. But I don't know what a JSON document is defined as.
> > Wait, scratch that. It's not called a "document", it's called a "text".
> >
> > So I went off researching JSON this morning, and here are some things I
> > found:
> >
> > 1) ECMA defines it, of course, being it's derived from
> > JavaScript/ECMAScript. There's also an RFC: 8259.
> > 1a) RFC 8259 was published just last December!
> > 2)
> >
> https://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/ECMA-404.pdf
> > 3) https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8259
> > 4) ECMA says "JSON" is pronounced like "Jason". I prefer to say
> "jay-sawn".
> > 5) ECMA is a *lot* sloppier with their specifications than the IETF, and
> > with the quality of their documentation.
> > 5a) <rant> ECMA! Shill for Microsoft. Skin disease. So on. </rant>
> > 6) "Hello, world" is a complete JSON text. Nothing says you have to have
> > braces or brackets.
> > 7) Unicode is not actually strictly required.... (I did not expect that.)
> >
> > So my question... Must a JSON text be *one* object or *one* array or
> *one*
> > unstructured string, number, or allowed constant? And must objects and
> > arrays be separated by a comma? Is the text between these dashed lines a
> > conforming JSON text?:
> >
> > ------------
> > { "name": "Todd", "occupation": "scalawag" }
> > { "fruit": "orange", "delicious": true }
> > ------------
> >
> > --
> > Todd
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