[Cialug] Displays

Justin Richeson neomatrixjr at gmail.com
Mon May 22 19:12:29 UTC 2017


I can chime in on 4k for the desktop.  I got a 28" 4k samsung....one of the
low-end models on Black Friday a couple years ago.  I got it home and
plugged it in and promptly couldn't use all 4k.  My GPU at the time choked
and said NOPE...can't do it.  Got a cheap-ish upgrade from Craigslist while
waiting for the 10xx nVidia GPUs to come out.  I think my 4k killed it...I
ended up with a 1070 before Black Friday hit last year (yay...got to pay
full price...).  Mostly, what I can say is 4k is nearly too-high of a
resolution for PC at 28".  Going full 4k makes for TINY icons and text and
forget trying to use it with a 1080p 2nd monitor.  So I scaled to
150%...essentially text, icons, etc running like 2k now, but images and
videos still utilize 4k.  Not all applications work properly with windows
scaling.  (Arduino IDE is a good example...still runs with super tiny text)
 Really, I've run the display at 2k and 4k and couldn't tell the
difference.  I went to 4k because at the time there wasn't a big cost
difference.  If that's still the case...go 4k....just because, otherwise go
2k IMHO...no need to scale and still have a great picture.

Also, I just want to point out that 2k/4k are misnomers and I'm well
aware.  Should be QHD/UHD.

For what it's worth...1080 can still be great if your eyes can't tell much
difference.  I recently got an HP Elite X2 1012 G1 (yeah...that's a
mouthful) tablet with a 1080p screen.  Looks great as long as I'm not out
in the sun or getting a ton of glare/reflection.  And really...for a mobile
device, it cuts down on the processing power needed to get all dem pixels
to da screen :).  All-in, the 1080p display was the ONE detractor on that
tablet and I don't regret getting it.  USB-C/Thunderbolt3 - yes, Full USB3
port - yes, kickstand - yes, keyboard and pen included - yes, cheaper than
surface (even used) - yes.  I'm hoping the USBC/TB3 port has or will
support eGPU...if my desktop ever dies I'm thinking of going dockable
mobile only (GASP!).  Sadly, with two kids...I rarely get face-to-screen
time with my powerhouse in the basement and spend more time on mobile
devices and TV/RasPi than anything.  You know....now that I finally have
that nice 4k monitor and 1070gpu... :'(

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Matt Stanton <matt at itwannabe.com> wrote:

> I would imagine what is most impressive are two main features:
>
> 1 - IPS display panel
> 2 - 300+ ppi
>
> My guess is that it has a 12.2" 2560x1440px IPS panel  if you wanted to
> rival that you would have a very hard time, but a 4K (2160p) monitor with
> an IPS display would still be very impressive.  IPS panels have a 178° wide
> viewing angle both horizontally and vertically, and they also generally
> have a wider color gamut (they can display more colors than other panels).
>
> The drawback to IPS displays is that they are slower than TN panels, but
> they are still capable of 60Hz refresh.  You just won't get 144Hz out of
> one (not that you could afford the graphics cards you'd need to be able to
> render over 60fps at 4K resolutions).
>
> -- Matt (N0BOX)
>
> Sent from my android device.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net>
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> Sent: Mon, 22 May 2017 14:13
> Subject: [Cialug] Displays
>
> I'll admit it, I'm a lot out of the hardware game.  The last couple of
> days I've been working with a new Surface Pro 3 with a 12.2 display.
> I have to admit, this is a really nice piece of hardware. I'm blown
> away by the quality of the display.
>
> My question is: What factors make this display look so good?  Is it
> the high pixels per inch?  Is it the contrast ratio and brightness or
> is it something else?  If I was to going to get a dock for this
> Surface I would definitely want to spend some extra $$$ and get a
> large display that would rival what the Surface already has.
>
> What kind of specifications would you look for in a large flat panel?
>
>
> :) Dave
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