[Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs

[David Champion]

Is COBOL dead yet?

-dc

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM, kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps look at any languages we consider today to be "dead"
> languages? In other words, what languages are taught in school, but
> not really used by a sizeable population. In other, other words, which
> programming languages are similar to spoken/written languages like
> Latin, Sumerian, Phoenician, etc.?
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:54 AM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Note that programming languages are like religions in that they're tough
> to
> > get going, but once one does get past the originating prophet hacker,
> they
> > almost _never_ die
> >
> > I'm still waiting for the movie treatment of Stroustrup.  "You don't get
> > rich writing C.  If you want to get rich, you code in C++."
> >
> >
> > On Apr 26, 2017 11:50 AM, "Will" <staticphantom at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > All I am getting from this thread is that languages come... But they
> really
> > don't go away once they hit critical mass since 2010.
> >
> > C++ is reinventing itself by the way if anyone hasn't been following.
> > Listen to the Cpp podcast if you are interested.
> >
> > -Will
> >
> > On Apr 26, 2017 11:15, "Andrew Denner" <linux-list at upeke.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On perl it all depends, there are so many different ways to write the
> same
> >> code. Some are quite ugly.
> >>
> >> I think c# will have good staying power especially with parts of .net
> > being
> >> open sourced. Java probably will remain, and the something javascript
> > based
> >> will still be around.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Seconded on Perl, I use it daily. It's one of those languages that
> will
> >> > remain around forever I one form or another.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:51 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I'm a huge Perl fan. Granted, most of what I need scripts for is
> text
> >> > > processing, which is what Perl was designed for.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I have yet to see a compelling reason to use something other than
> Perl
> >> > for
> >> > > most server-side stuff.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Jared Brees<http://me.relatedtotechnology.org/> - Squirrel
> >> Photographer<
> >> > > http://squirrels.relatedtotechnology.org/>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ________________________________
> >> > > From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on
> behalf
> >> of
> >> > > Nicolai <nicolai-cialug at chocolatine.org>
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:10 PM
> >> > > To: cialug at cialug.org
> >> > > Subject: [Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs
> >> > >
> >> > > Hey all,
> >> > >
> >> > > What are your thoughts on programming languages in the next 10
> years?
> >> > > What will be the big winners and losers?  What's the trajectory of
> the
> >> > > ecosystem?
> >> > >
> >> > > I've been learning Go recently.  I like it a lot and think it will
> be
> >> my
> >> > > default language now.  First I rewrote some simple C tools in Go,
> then
> >> > > my password manager (also previously in C), next is something
> bigger.
> >> > Like
> >> > > several other languages, Go has a bright future.
> >> > >
> >> > > Python is nice, but other languages with safety features (like Rust
> > and
> >> > > Go) are getting big and they are also MUCH faster.  Given its
> > slowness,
> >> > > and combined with the awkward handling of Python2 to Python3, I
> think
> >> > > Python will contract a bit.
> >> > >
> >> > > With Perl it's past time to SELL SELL SELL!  That ship has sailed.
> >> > >
> >> > > I hope Rust succeeds but I personally don't like the syntax.
> >> > >
> >> > > IMO C is the most beautiful language.  I've also come to believe
> that
> >> > > programming languages are like shoes: they can be beautiful or
> >> > > comfortable, or neither, but never both.  C is beautiful but unsafe.
> >> > > Rust is safe but heinous (okay I said it).  Go is safe but kinda
> >> > > plainly, similar to Python.
> >> > >
> >> > > C will be with us for a long time.  Maybe/hopefully C programmers
> >> > > will begin to code more cautiously, making use of strl{cpy,cat},
> >> > > OpenBSD pledge(), avoiding malloc, initializing variables, etc. to
> >> > > reduce problems and create a sort of memory safety that's a lot
> better
> >> > > than nothing.
> >> > >
> >> > > Nicolai
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