[Cialug] ? Open Source Group Software

jim kraai jimgkraai at gmail.com
Mon Aug 24 13:53:37 CDT 2015


I believe what you say about how resource-hungry Alfresco is.  I
worked with it at IWD

I could do most things with it in JavaScript, which made me smile

The unrelenting Alfresco sales team did not make me smile



On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 1:43 PM, David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just say "no" to Alfresco. If you look under "resource hog" in the
> dictionary there's a picture of the Alfresco logo next to it.
>
> Their java implementation of samba file sharing has to be one of the worst
> things ever conceived.
>
> -dc
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 1:08 PM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > cool, added to the list to check out, thank you!
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Derek Etnyre <detnyre at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Have wanted to try Members Gear - is on my list :)
> > >
> > > http://membersgear.com/index.php
> > >
> > > Derek
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Aug 24, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Three things to consider:
> > > >
> > > > Drupal - not really a resource hog by most standards, but it is an
> > > > amazingly flexible system that will happily let you shoot yourself in
> > the
> > > > foot. Think of it as a tool like MS Access. You start out with
> > something
> > > > that looks like an ultra basic CMS but what you really have is a a
> > > database
> > > > and development framework that is mostly controlled using a web based
> > UI.
> > > >
> > > > Wordpress - try this before anything else to see if it will work for
> > you.
> > > > BuddyPress is a great plugin and is the foundation for a lot of other
> > > great
> > > > plugins for collaboration. wpmudev.org is a website focused on
> > tutorials
> > > > and plugins for people doing this stuff. The reason why I suggest WP
> as
> > > > first choice is because it's about the easiest to try, has some of
> the
> > > best
> > > > documentation and community support. As far as security and
> performance
> > > > concerns, is very well understood. Yes, it's a bigger target, but the
> > > > update system for security updates is very mature and there are
> > numerous
> > > > people in the community and on this list who know how to deal with
> it.
> > > >
> > > > Another one to look into is a slightly different beast: Zentyal is
> more
> > > > like an open source Exchange replacement, but it does focus on
> helping
> > > > groups communicate. You would use your e-mail/calendar/notes
> > applications
> > > > on your computer or phone to access the data, but it also has a web
> > > > interface. Compared to the two above, it is a resource hog. I think
> you
> > > may
> > > > be able to install it on a VM with 1GB of RAM if you enable swap.
> Once
> > > you
> > > > give it enough resources it's not a crazy-hard installation.
> > > >
> > > >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:52 AM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Looking for your suggestions and experience ...
> > > >>
> > > >> I know it's come up before, but am hoping some of the answers have
> > > changed
> > > >> over time.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm in a couple of non-technical nonprofits that don't really want
> to
> > > >> budget any $ on anything that's not 1960s level tech.  There's good
> > > >> pressure from within to update that.
> > > >>
> > > >> They each need a web site, member/mailing list management, and more
> > > modern
> > > >> features.  I don't know what more modern features are or should
> > > be--maybe
> > > >> self-management of annual dues, event management, forums, publish
> > photo
> > > >> galleries or link to external photo gallery site.  I'm keeping the
> > > >> 'required features' list fluid as I'll go with whatever a suite
> > > offers.  A
> > > >> member forum would be nice.  Per-member blogs would be OK, but I'd
> > > prefer
> > > >> to link to something external for that.
> > > >>
> > > >> Each club has 50 < members < 100, so that puts us out of the free
> > range
> > > of
> > > >> most online places.
> > > >>
> > > >> Low/mid level technical skill in maintenance is important.  I'll
> host
> > > at my
> > > >> expense for life, but I don't wish to be web master for life on the
> > > >> day-to-day content and member management fiddling, if you get my
> > drift.
> > > >>
> > > >> Things that are off the table are:
> > > >> - Yahoo Groups--rotting from within
> > > >> - G+:  cost and lack of features
> > > >> - Facebook:  guessing it'll cost plenty soon and lack of features
> > > >>
> > > >> It's my impression that:
> > > >> - Drupal is a resource hog
> > > >> - Joomla is a resource hog and has been hacked every way imaginable
> > > >> - WP is less of a hog, but suffers continuous popularity-hacking
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't quite understand Google for Nonprofits, it seems like little
> > > more
> > > >> than a self-promotion tool--a way to put ads out there.
> > > >>
> > > >> There are things that look almost nice like:
> > > >> - http://www.memberplanet.com/nonprofit.aspx
> > > >> - http://www.clubmaster.org/
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