[Cialug] Ubuntu 12,04 LTS

Tue Nov 19 15:56:28 CST 2013

Oh, sorry.  The "Other Matt" ;) is right... I was confused between 12.04 and 12.11.  The LTS version still has the Unity 2D option, and I guess they dropped it in their next version to try out the option of forcing people to come up with some 3D hardware.  To be fair, most computers made in the past 5 or so years have an Intel or AMD CPU that includes some 3D support with an included GPU, even if that GPU doesn't offer much in performance compared to discrete graphics.  Unfortunately, a lot of people turn to Ubuntu when they either 1) can't afford to buy a new computer thanks to the current economic situation, or 2) want to resurrect an old computer for someone for whom they can't afford to buy a new $600+ computer (generally in the case of people who only need that computer for email, web, office, and solitaire).

Sorry for the confusion.

-- Matt (N0BOX)

Sent from my ASUS Transformer

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org>
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Sent: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ubuntu 12,04 LTS

No, this is incorrect. 12.04 did support 2d rendering if you use the Unity
2d window manager instead of "unity. It was the last version to include
Unity 2D, which is a bit disappointing, though newer versions do have
better support for low-end video cards.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Aaron <ampilgrim85 at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Ubuntu has completely dropped support for software 3D rendering in Unity,
> which means that any system without a supported 3D graphics card can not
> run Ubuntu 12.04 in graphical mode." --Matt (NOBOX)
>
> This is correct. Unity made a shit pile for older hardware users. I
> suggest an install of something like the other *buntu distros or you could
> try Linux Mint 13 LTS with either Mate or Cinnamon as a desktop. They both
> work great with older hardware and no GPU.
>
>
>
> On 11/18/2013 10:53 PM, Tom Sellers wrote:
>
>> I assume that this is true in any versions greater than 12.04 as well
>> then.  Is that correct?
>>
>> From: Matt Stanton <matt at itwannabe.com>
>> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 7:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ubuntu 12,04 LTS
>>
>>
>> The biggest -- or maybe "most common" -- issue that people upgrading to
>> Ubuntu 12.04 are facing is that Ubuntu has completely dropped support for
>> software 3D rendering in Unity, which means that any system without a
>> supported 3D graphics card can not run Ubuntu 12.04 in graphical mode.  You
>> can get a cheap, ancient graphics card that is supported, or you can choose
>> a different GUI.  I've been using Xubuntu (XFCE) on my little ARM dev
>> boards when I need to use an Ubuntu install since Unity doesn't properly
>> support OpenGL ES2 as implemented on the dev boards I use.  You can also
>> use Lubuntu (LXDE), and I'm pretty sure that KDE can still run using
>> software rendering in Kubuntu.
>>
>> It could always be a completely different issue, but that is the
>> most-complained-about problem with 12.04.
>>
>> -- Matt (N0BOX)
>>
>> Sent from my ASUS Transformer
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
>> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
>> Sent: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 5:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ubuntu 12,04 LTS
>>
>> What was the error message?
>>
>> -dc
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Tom Sellers <tomsellers2001 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I have been running Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10 on a Dell Optiplex GX270 for
>>> some time with no problems to speak of.  I wanted to get off that version
>>> and on to one that would be supported for an extended period so I
>>> upgraded
>>> to 12.04.  That did not go very well and after finally getting all the
>>> updates finished I started getting pop up errors on the screen very
>>> regularly.  I decided to install from scatch and downloaded the 12.04.3
>>> version and burned it to a USB stick.  When I attempted to install the
>>> 12.04.3 version on the previously mentioned machine it encountered an
>>> error
>>> during the installation.  I tried reinstalling and encountered the error
>>> again.  I used the same USB stick and installed this 12.04.3 version on a
>>> different system.  It ran flawlessly during the install and seems to be
>>> working fine other than some video issues which seem to indicate I need
>>> to
>>> install an additional program.
>>>
>>> I have looked on line but have not located any web page that specifically
>>> identifies the Dell GX270 as not being compatible with this version.
>>>  Does
>>> anyone know if there is a problem with this computer running the newer
>>> version?  Can someone point me to a site that might shed some light on
>>> this
>>> issue for me?
>>>
>>> The Optiplex GX270 has a 3.0 Ghz Pentium IV processor and 2 GB or ram
>>>
>>> Thanks!
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