[Cialug] I Don't Hate Tikly--a Thoughtful Side-Topic Opinion

[jim kraai]

Todd,

Thank you for the thoughtful emails.

My use of services and tolerance for exposure are evolving.  I grew up in a
community where people were vilified for reacting appropriately to new
information or new understanding.  I learned that that behavior was foolish
and stiltifying to growth.

So, I'll offer two bins to throw me into, then:  I'm either a buffoon to be
ignored or I may be more complicated than is readily apparent.

Everyone is free to make their own choice or add to the list.  :-)

--jim
On Nov 2, 2013 12:17 PM, "Todd Walton" <tdwalton at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:34 AM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:
> [snip exposition]
>
> > This is why I prefer to not use third party services that gather any kind
> > of data.
> >
>
> My personal comfort level tends towards data promiscuity.  I have a few
> personal data elements I consider high-value and guard closely, and the
> rest of it I pretty much let loose.  Like Dave said, I don't care if you
> know where I am on Wednesday night.  On the other end of that, I keep an
> eyeball tuned to phishing attempts that use that loose data.  A separate
> axis of concern for me, aside from the data itself, is how many damned
> logins I have to maintain, and how many newsletters and reminder emails and
> "we miss you" emails I get.  I absolutely hate junk mail, both physical and
> electronic.
>
> So, I'm generally loose.  But I understand that not everyone is.  And I
> understand that some people have very good reasons for being more private.
> I agree with much of what you say, Jim.  I'd urge the user to relax more,
> but I'd urge the organizer to be accepting of others' electronic
> preferences also.  In my role as organizer I take pro-active steps to
> accept participants who are less loose with data or just plain don't like
> technological gewgaws.  And, anyway, how darn hard is it to keep track of
> RSVPs without a website to do it with?  Surely not that hard.
>
> The balance tilts when the value of the technology goes up, of course.  I
> use Meetup to manage one of my groups.  Although you're certainly welcome
> to attend the meetings without having signed up for Meetup, and you can
> communicate via postcards or carrier pigeon with anyone willing to share
> with you their mailing address, there is certainly some pressure to sign up
> with Meetup.com and join the group.  But I'm okay with that.  There is a
> level of complexity involved in organizing meetings, scheduling them,
> making the calendar public, maintaining a mailing list, getting RSVPs,
> selectively allowing others to co-manage the group, etc.  Meetup makes all
> of that easy.
>
> It's a balance, I suppose.  If your point is that third party services that
> gather data should never be used, then I'd say good luck with that.  If
> your point is to say that we should be more selective about using them, and
> conscious of their ramifications, then I'm with you.
>
> --
> Todd
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