[Cialug] java web toolkits

[carl-olsen at mchsi.com]

Yes, I'm using a framework because I do the same things repetitively over and over again.  There's more learning up front, but its worth it.

Carl

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Matthew Nuzum" <newz at bearfruit.org>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007 9:37 AM, <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
> 
> > I would not use a framework for this unless I had other reasons for using
> > a framework.  I'm playing with symfony right now, but it will not run inside
> > the CMS I have to integrate it with.  I'm using the ORM part of symfony to
> > create my PHP objects, which is definitely a big advantage.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> 
> Well, there are js only frameworks too. For Ubuntu.com I use mootools, but
> jquery is similar (and more data focused, where moo is more visual/effect
> focused). These libraries are relatively lightweight if you don't include
> all the bells and whistles. They make loading json (or whatever) extremely
> simple. Other benefits include simplifying your usual JS code. In moo I do
> something like this to track external links:
> 
> $$("a[href^='http://']").each(function(link) {
>   link.addEvent('click', [code to do onclick])
> }
> 
> That gets all the "A" tags that have an href that matches the regex ^http://
> and *adds* (not replaces) an onclick function to them.
> 
> Ajax is as simple as:
> 
> window.addEvent('domready', function() {
> 	xhr.request().chain(selectmirror);
> })
> 
> var selectmirror = function () {
>     [deal with the json/xml]
> }
> 
> However, learning the framework is a chore that you have to accomplish in
> order to get the maximum benefit. So the upfront cost is high but the payoff
> is long term.
> 
> -- 
> Matthew Nuzum
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