[Cialug] So who didn't see this one coming?

[Carl Olsen]

They had some kind of collaboration software that a lot of people were
running and I can't remember the name of it.  I think it had an email
client.  I think that was commonly found on Windows.  Was it "Groupwise" or
something like that?

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From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
Of David Champion
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:56 PM
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Cialug] So who didn't see this one coming?

I know this is kind of a conspiracy-theory leap... but Caldera was a 
spin-off from Novell... -> Caldera becomes SCO -> Microsoft helps SCO in 
the IBM case... -> Microsft partners with Suse / Novell...

BTW, Novell didn't really run on the Windows OS. You installed a Netware 
client in Windows so you could access the shares. The Novell OS usually 
ran on a dedicated file server. You could run a non-dedicated server 
back in the Netware 386 days, and run a Win3.1 desktop on top of 
Netware, but that made things slow and crappy in both Netware and Windows.

There were other options, but Netware was the only network OS that was 
reasonably priced and stable enough. Netware 3/4 servers would run for 
years without anyone ever logging in to the console.

IMHO Novell screwed up when they stopped development on their Unix-based 
Netware replacement.

-dc

carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> I remember when NetWare was very popular and Microsoft and Novell were
doing a lot of integration.  There seems to be some kind of historic
relationship between these two.  I don't know much except I remember NetWare
was big when I first started using Windows and it ran on a lot of Windows
operating systems.
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Brandon Griffis" <brandongriffis at gmail.com>
>> I doubt they're going after any projects.  In everything I've read from
>> Balmer he's not once used the word patient or copyright, it's always
"IP".
>> I think we're just talking about FUD threats.  The problem is that Novell
>> has lent those threats credibility by making this deal.
>>
>> -G
>>
>> On 11/17/06, Tony Jeffries <ajeffri at loopysite.org> wrote:
>>> On Fri, November 17, 2006 10:24, Daniel.Juliano at wellsfargo.com wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> My concern is Microsoft might never attack property in The Kernel (tm),
>>>> as wayyy too many companies are involved in it's development, but it
>>>> would be relatively easy to attack some of the key applications that
>>>> make running linux worthwhile.
>>> My thought is that, as someone else said, they're going after Samba, or
>>> that they're going after OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> Those are the two I'm concerned about.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tony Jeffries
>>> ajeffri at loopysite.org
>>> n0nro at arrl.net
>>>
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> Subject:
> Re: [Cialug] So who didn't see this one coming?
> From:
> "Brandon Griffis" <brandongriffis at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:42:24 +0000
> To:
> "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" <cialug at cialug.org>
> 
> To:
> "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" <cialug at cialug.org>
> 
> 
> I doubt they're going after any projects.  In everything I've read from
> Balmer he's not once used the word patient or copyright, it's always "IP".
> I think we're just talking about FUD threats.  The problem is that Novell
> has lent those threats credibility by making this deal.
> 
> -G
> 
> On 11/17/06, Tony Jeffries <ajeffri at loopysite.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, November 17, 2006 10:24, Daniel.Juliano at wellsfargo.com wrote:
>> <snip>
>> > My concern is Microsoft might never attack property in The Kernel (tm),
>> > as wayyy too many companies are involved in it's development, but it
>> > would be relatively easy to attack some of the key applications that
>> > make running linux worthwhile.
>>
>> My thought is that, as someone else said, they're going after Samba, or
>> that they're going after OpenOffice.
>>
>> Those are the two I'm concerned about.
>>
>> -- 
>> Tony Jeffries
>> ajeffri at loopysite.org
>> n0nro at arrl.net
>>
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>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug
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