[Cialug] Call for lightning talks - Wednesday

David Champion dchampion at visionary.com
Mon Jul 17 16:11:46 CDT 2006


http://www.cialug.org/meetings.php

-dc

carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> Where is the meeting on Wednesday?  Visionary?
> 
> -------------- Original message from "Josh More" <morej at alliancetechnologies.net>: -------------- 
> 
> 
> 
>>You really shouldn't be using SLED10 to host web sites. That's more of 
>>a 
>>job of SLES10. I do not think that you will have any issues with 
>>support 
>>on SLES10 for what you are looking at. That is, after all, it's 
>>purpose. 
>>
>>Novell has not yet updated their package list, but I have sent Carl a 
>>package list that I gleaned from my .iso. If anyone else wants it, 
>>let 
>>me know. (I figure that most of the list doesn't need a 1811 line 
>>text 
>>file appearing out of the blue. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP 
>>morej at alliancetechnologies.net 
>>515-245-7701 
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>07/17/06 3:03 PM >>> 
>>
>>I see they have 10 on their website this morning, but when I click on 
>>the package descriptions for SLED 10, I get the list for Novell Linux 
>>Desktop 9. The only question I have is what packages are available for 
>>SLED 10 and whether I can host websites on it like I'm doing with SLP 
>>9.3. 
>>
>>-------------- Original message from "Josh More" 
>>: -------------- 
>>
>>
>>
>>>First of all, let me clear up a misunderstanding. *all* versions of 
>>>SUSE are the 
>>>"open source" version. They're just not all free. They all contain 
>>>some 
>>>closed source software. Here are the differences: 
>>>
>>>1) OpenSUSE 
>>>
>>>This is a project like Fedora or Ubuntu. It is available, for free, 
>>
>>to 
>>
>>>anyone 
>>>who wishes to download it. If you wish to pay for it, you can also 
>>>get 
>>>Novell support. It tends to have a six month lifetime, after which it 
>>
>>>is replaced 
>>>by a new minor number. Emphasis is on new and experimentalism. As 
>>>such, 
>>>this is best aimed at power users, who can deal with the rough edges 
>>
>>to 
>>
>>>get 
>>>the best tools. When the minor number hits 1, it becomes: 
>>>
>>>2) SUSE Core 
>>>
>>>This is the base for the other SUSE/Novell Linux versions. It is 
>>>considered 
>>>stable, and is supported for 7 years from release. It can be 
>>>downloaded 
>>>as part of the products below, for free, as an evaluation. Support 
>>>costs money. 
>>>
>>>3) SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) 
>>>
>>>This is a distribution intended to be used as a server. Emphasis is 
>>
>>on 
>>
>>>security 
>>>and stability. Versions 9 and 10 are available, based on Core 9, and 
>>
>>>Core 10 
>>>respectively. Consider it similar to RHEL in purpose, though somewhat 
>>
>>>different in support and 3rd party apps (like App Armor and full Xen 
>>
>>>support) 
>>>
>>>4) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED except in the Netherlands) 
>>>
>>>This is a distribution intended to be used as a desktop (duh). 
>>>Emphasis 
>>>here is on usability. This is the Linux intended to be used by 
>>
>>"normal 
>>
>>>people". 
>>>It has all the glitz and glamor with minimal rough edges. It does 
>>>*not* have 
>>>the latest and greatest foo.whatever. Stability still matters. 
>>>Versions 9 and 
>>>10 are available. 9 is intended to be used by call center people, and 
>>
>>>data entry folks. 10 is intended to be used by general office 
>>>workers. 
>>>Neither is intended to be used by power users. 
>>>
>>>5) Open Enterprise Server (OES) 
>>>
>>>This is basically SLES with Novell services. It natively supports 
>>
>>NSS, 
>>
>>>iFolder, iPrint, 
>>>GroupWise, and the standard Novell/Netware fare. It is intended to 
>>>replace 
>>>Netware and MS Small Business Server. There a nice new bundle that 
>>>includes 
>>>OES, Groupwise, OpenOffice and (optionally) Linux Desktop. This tends 
>>
>>>to be 
>>>much cheaper per user than MS Small Business Server, and it's all 
>>
>>open 
>>
>>>source. 
>>>(go ahead, get excited now). Currently, it is only available in 
>>>version 9, but version 
>>>10 is expected once SLES 10 stabilizes. 
>>>
>>>6) Novell Linux Point of Service (LPOS) 
>>>
>>>This is a version of Linux that runs well on cash registers and like 
>>
>>>machines. 
>>>It has native hardware support and includes the fancy Java tools that 
>>
>>>this 
>>>hardware requires. I have very little experience with this other than 
>>
>>>a basic 
>>>install. I think that only version 9 is currently available. 
>>>
>>>7) Netware 6.5 
>>>
>>>What am I doing? Netware isn't Linux! Well, actually, Novell 
>>>announced 
>>>that they will support Netware for 13 years (from last March) when it 
>>
>>>is 
>>>running inside Xen on SLES 10 (and theoretically, all other versions 
>>
>>of 
>>
>>>SLES). 
>>>
>>>
>>>In general: 
>>>
>>>If you are a hobbiest or hacker, use OpenSUSE 
>>>If you are in the business world and need a server, use SLES 
>>>If you are in the business world and need a desktop, use SLED 
>>>If you are in the business world and need a one- box- fits- all, use 
>>
>>OES 
>>
>>>If you have more questions, feel free to ask me at the LUG meeting on 
>>
>>>Wed. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>- Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP 
>>>morej at alliancetechnologies.net 
>>>515- 245- 7701 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>"Carl Olsen" 07/16/06 8:56 PM >>> 
>>>
>>>I'd also like to start using Java and JSP, so I'm interested in 
>>
>>Tomcat 
>>
>>>as 
>>>well, but I think this release is going to have Geronimo. What can 
>>
>>you 
>>
>>>tell 
>>>me about Java/JSP support on this new release? 
>>>
>>>----- Original Message----- 
>>>From: cialug- bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug- 
>>
>>bounces at cialug.org] On 
>>
>>>Behalf 
>>>Of Carl Olsen 
>>>Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:54 PM 
>>>To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group' 
>>>Subject: RE: [Cialug] Call for lightning talks - Wednesday 
>>>
>>>I was just about to install SUSE 10.1 (the open source version), but 
>>
>>>when I 
>>>read your email I decided to wait until tomorrow. What is the 
>>>difference 
>>>between the open source version and the SUSE Linux Desktop 10 version 
>>
>>>that 
>>>is being released tomorrow? I see the price for Novell Linux 
>>>Enterprise 
>>>Desktop 9 is around $35 on their web site. I believe you can buy the 
>>
>>>open 
>>>source version, but the price is actually higher than $35. I don't 
>>>quite 
>>>understand the difference. I'm interested in Apache 2, PHP 5, and 
>>>MySQL 5, 
>>>and I'm also using PostgreSQL 8 and Mono 1.1. 
>>>
>>>Carl Olsen 
>>>Web Developer 
>>>Drake University 
>>>
>>>----- Original Message----- 
>>>From: cialug- bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug- 
>>
>>bounces at cialug.org] On 
>>
>>>Behalf 
>>>Of Josh More 
>>>Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:52 PM 
>>>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group 
>>>Subject: [Cialug] Call for lightning talks - Wednesday 
>>>
>>>OK, we have 10- 20 minutes allocated for SFD (in case it runs long). 
>>
>>>This means that we can handle 6- 8 lightning talks. 
>>>( http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=Lightning+Talks ) 
>>>
>>>I have signed myself up to give a talk on SUSE Linux Desktop 10, 
>>
>>which 
>>
>>>is expected to be released this Monday. 
>>>If it doesn't pan out, I'll find something else. 
>>>
>>>If there is a talk you would like to give, sign up at 
>>>http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=Meeting+Agenda 
>>>or email me, and I will sign you up myself. 
>>>
>>>Looking forward to seeing everyone on Wed. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>- Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP 
>>>morej at alliancetechnologies.net 
>>>515- 245- 7701 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>"Kevin C. Smith" 07/16/06 1:46 PM >>> 
>>>
>>>On Sun, 2006- 07- 16 at 13:33 - 0500, Josh More wrote: 
>>>
>>>>According the wiki, our meeting this Wednesday will be focused on 
>>>>Software Freedom Day. 
>>>>
>>>>My questions: 
>>>>
>>>>1) Will SFD take up the entire meeting? 
>>>
>>>No. 10 minutes 
>>>
>>>
>>>>2) If not, does anyone here have a topic that they would like to 
>>>>present? 
>>>>3) Failing that, does anyone here have a topic that they would like 
>>
>>>to 
>>>
>>>>see presented? 
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>IT is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect 
>>
>>>and expose delusion and error. But nature has not given to everyone a 
>>
>>>talent for the purpose; and among those to whom such a talent is 
>>>given, 
>>>there is often a want of disposition or of courage to do it. 
>>>-- Thomas Paine 
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________ 
>>>Cialug mailing list 
>>>Cialug at cialug.org 
>>>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug 
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________ 
>>>Cialug mailing list 
>>>Cialug at cialug.org 
>>>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug 
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________ 
>>>Cialug mailing list 
>>>Cialug at cialug.org 
>>>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug 
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________ 
>>>Cialug mailing list 
>>>Cialug at cialug.org 
>>>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug 
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________ 
>>>Cialug mailing list 
>>>Cialug at cialug.org 
>>>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug 
>>
>>_______________________________________________ 
>>Cialug mailing list 
>>Cialug at cialug.org 
>>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug 
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Cialug mailing list
>>Cialug at cialug.org
>>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug




More information about the Cialug mailing list