[Cialug] Poor man's hot-swappable hard drive

[Don Cady]

Hey wait-a minute.. doesn't the SATA spec allow hot-swapping?

Don
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Renegade Muskrat" <dramaley@spatulacity.cx>
To: <cialug@cialug.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:16 AM
Subject: RE: [Cialug] Poor man's hot-swappable hard drive


> It is possible to hot-swap IDE. Sort of. I've tried it on both Windows 
> and Linux. With Windows it did not work; the OS never recognized the 
> drive. With Linux i was able to mount the drive after plugging it in 
> while the machine was one. I definitely do not recommend hot swapping 
> IDE equipment though; it goes against the specification and can result 
> in hardware damage, data loss, etc. If you do decide to play with hot 
> swapping IDE, i recommend doing it on a computer you don't care about 
> and with drives you don't care about (and have backed up to a different 
> machine).
> 
> I've purchased a few IDE -> USB/Firewire kits from www.sunshinestor.com 
> and been quite happy with them. I'd recommend going this route.
> 
> At 10:53 AM 1/7/2005 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> Aren't there kits to make an internal drive an USB drive?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Champion [mailto:dave@visionary.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:52 AM
> > To: cialug@cialug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Poor man's hot-swappable hard drive
> >
> >
> > If you shop around for bargains, you can sometimes find a decent
> > external USB or FireWire drive cheaper than if you bought the
> > same drive
> > by itself.
> >
> > -dc
> >
> > Daniel Wittenberg wrote:
> > > IDE like that wasn't ment to be hot-swappable, so you could
> > definitely
> > > fry something.  You might get lucky and have it work, maybe
> > not.  Your
> > > OS would also have to know how to rescan for IDE changes,
> > which usually
> > > only happens with SCSI/FW/USB.  I think they do make
> > hot-swap IDE disk
> > > carriers, and obviously scsi/firewire work as well.  I would 
> suggest
> > > just buying an external USB or firewire drive and using
> > that instead.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 10:16 -0600, Claus wrote:
> > >
> > >>Is it possible to have the power cable and IDE cable hang
> > out of the
> > >>computer case and plug in a HD as needed while the computer
> > is running?
> > >>
> > >>I'm mostly concerned if hardware could be damaged or data
> > be corrupted.
> > >>
> > >>Basically this would be to backup data onto a hard drive
> > that is then
> > >>stored somewhere else.  The HD would be mounted to a *BDS system 
> as
> > >>needed without having to reboot that system.
> > >>
> > >>   Claus
> >
> >
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> At 10:53 AM 1/7/2005 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> Aren't there kits to make an internal drive an USB drive?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Champion [mailto:dave@visionary.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:52 AM
> > To: cialug@cialug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Poor man's hot-swappable hard drive
> >
> >
> > If you shop around for bargains, you can sometimes find a decent
> > external USB or FireWire drive cheaper than if you bought the
> > same drive
> > by itself.
> >
> > -dc
> >
> > Daniel Wittenberg wrote:
> > > IDE like that wasn't ment to be hot-swappable, so you could
> > definitely
> > > fry something.  You might get lucky and have it work, maybe
> > not.  Your
> > > OS would also have to know how to rescan for IDE changes,
> > which usually
> > > only happens with SCSI/FW/USB.  I think they do make
> > hot-swap IDE disk
> > > carriers, and obviously scsi/firewire work as well.  I would 
> suggest
> > > just buying an external USB or firewire drive and using
> > that instead.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 10:16 -0600, Claus wrote:
> > >
> > >>Is it possible to have the power cable and IDE cable hang
> > out of the
> > >>computer case and plug in a HD as needed while the computer
> > is running?
> > >>
> > >>I'm mostly concerned if hardware could be damaged or data
> > be corrupted.
> > >>
> > >>Basically this would be to backup data onto a hard drive
> > that is then
> > >>stored somewhere else.  The HD would be mounted to a *BDS system 
> as
> > >>needed without having to reboot that system.
> > >>
> > >>   Claus
> >
> >
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