[Cialug] SUSE Question

Mon Aug 8 19:04:46 CDT 2005

I'll second the RHEL or Centos.  Remember with RHEL, you maybe able to
use the Enterprise Workstation or Server, and that will save you some
major $$$ over advanced server...

On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 17:39, Josh More wrote:
> If you are using the server in a work environment and you need 
> enterprise-level reliability, you need an enterprise-level server. 
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Linux Enterprise Server will 
> work for you.  This way you will get five years of updates for all 
> supported apps - ssh, apache,vsftpd, etc.  Do not expect updates 
> for unsupported apps such as ports from other OS versions. 
> For example, if you need widgety-foo.rpm from SUSE Pro or 
> Fedora Core, so not expect enterprise-level performance or 
> security from it. 
>  
> That said, if you cannot afford the enterprise systems, I recommend 
> CentOS.  It is a rebuild of RHEL and odds are that it will be updated 
> as RHEL is.  I recommend actually parting with the money though. 
> If you are making money off it, you should pay for it.  IMO. 
>  
> 
> 
> -- 
> -Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP
> morej at alliancetechnologies.net
> 515-245-7701
> 
> >>>sthiessen at passitonservices.org 08/08/05 5:31 pm >>>
> Ok, just to get your advice (all included, not just Josh) ...
> 
> Should I not run SUSE for this then? Or you recommend something better
> that would be more stable?
> 
> If it will save my time and effort in the future to backup my software
> and reinstall something more stable, I can do that. But I am not sure
> what is the best for this kind of situation.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Stuart
> 
> On Aug 8, 2005, at 17:25, Josh More wrote:
> 
> > 9.2 is old, 9.3 is new, you should upgrade.
> > 
> >Now, before you think I'm just being an ass, think for a minute about
> >the
> >SUSE paradigm.  SUSE Pro is an "enthusist" version.  It is designed
> to
> >be upgraded every time something new comes out.  People who want
> >a nice stable desktop are expected to go for Novell Linux Desktop.
> >People who want a nice stable server are expected to go for SUSE
> >Linux Enterprise Server.
> > 
> >Now that 9.3 is out, 9.2 is not given as careful attention regarding
> >security updates, so stability will be more and more of a concern.
> >I would *love* to be able to point you to a SUSE-like community
> >supported enterprise OS, but there just isn't a CentOS for SUSE.
> >In order to work within the paradigm, you need to upgrade.
> > 
> >As far as what could suddenly be causing problems, I generally find
> >that this sort of thing is caused by a new exploit making the rounds.
> >Long before you can get hacked by such a thing, you see system
> >instability.  Right now, I'm seeing it with proftpd, but I have also
> >recently seen it with ssh and apache.
> > 
> >This also ignores any issues that may come from hardware that is
> >starting to flake out.
> > 
> >Good luck,
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP
> > morej at alliancetechnologies.net
> > 515-245-7701
> >
> >>>>sthiessen at passitonservices.org 08/08/05 5:03 pm >>>
> >I am running SUSE 9.2, I believe (Server's at the office and I'm at
> >home off today). My colleague called me up and said that the server
> >went down again.  It had been working for months with no problem and
> >then all of a sudden, it is acting a little more temperamental.  The
> >same is true for a client of ours who we helped set up something
> >similar to what we have. It worked for months with no problem, and
> then
> >all of a sudden, it is going down and then 20 days later, it is down
> >again.
> >
> >Any thoughts what might be the problem?  I plan to investigate the
> logs
> >and such, but I am off today so I don't have access to them when
> >they're down (obviously). I will post what the logs say when I can
> get
> >to them tomorrow (unless I can figure it out myself).  I'm more
> >concerned with the seeming indication that it is becoming unstable.
> >
> >I just know enough to get things setup and configure things and keep
> >them running but not enough to be an expert when things go wrong or
> >need more detailed fixing.  I would like to be, but haven't gotten
> >there yet. So, I thought I would check with you to see if you had
> >experienced anything similar and see if you had any suggestions on
> >troubleshooting tips for this kind of thing.
> >
> >Both are being used as fileservers both as SFTP and Samba servers.
> Our
> >client's is also being used as an email server and a webmail server
> (I
> >know it is better to separate the fileserving and email functions,
> but
> >the client doesn't have the budget to separate the two functions at
> >this time).
> >
> >One last question ... do you recommend that servers be restarted from
> >time to time?  If so, how often do you recommend that happen?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Stuart
> >
> >
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