[DM-MUG] DMMUG Digest, Vol 75, Issue 10

Thu Jul 21 17:19:38 CDT 2011

RE;  "If animals play, this is because play is useful in the struggle for survival; because play practices and so perfects the skills needed in adult life".----Susanna Miller 
I love that quote.

You're dealing with a kindergarten teacher here.  We play to learn and learn through play... so I like that one, too!  :-)  And, thank you for the information.  I guess my book database I kept on iDisk will be defunct on my iPhone now when I'm shopping...... Dang!  I really liked that!!!  I will hang in there learning.  Another questions (remember, as a teacher I don't think any question is DUMB, but is the Dropbox you were talking about anything connected to the new iCloud?  
Thanks again.
Jenny
Jorgensen Jenny
jajorgy at aol.com
jajorgy1 at me.com

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>   1. Re: does anyone have a comment on DropBox? (Chris Van Cleve)
>   2. Re: iCloud; iWeb; Hoping for Clarifications (Bailey Ford)
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> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:05:40 -0500
> From: Chris Van Cleve <chris at vanclevefamily.net>
> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] does anyone have a comment on DropBox?
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> Not really, isolated, no. The DropBox service will not look outside of that folder, if that's what you're asking, but beyond that the DropBox folder is like any other on your hard drive with permissions dictated by it's location and the operating system defaults.
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> So, you can get to the DropBox folder without issue on your computer like all directories, but you cannot get beyond that folder via DropBox itself. In reality, when a person gets into your DropBox folder on the site, they are in a replica of your folder on the DropBox servers, not on your computer at all. When you add/remove files to the DropBox folder on your computer,it copies the file up into the cloud on the DropBox servers (or removes the files if deleted)
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> It functions this way much the same as iDisk does (until it gets turned off this fall). there is no risk to the data on your computer by using DropBox. The only risk is to the copies of any files you have in that folder that reside on the DropBox servers. I hope this all makes sense and doesn't confuse the issue for you.
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> As for those relatives with an affinity for looking into the harmless red lasers in their optical mice, I don't mean to offend, but those are the people who truly have no need for cloud services, won't understand them if shoved into them, and should be left clear away from them. On their computers. they are perfectly capable of using the URLs to files you share, however. Just don't expect reciprocation.
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> Thanks,
> Chris Van Cleve
> chris at vanclevefamily.net
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> Journey forth my friend, by body if needs be...
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> On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Geoffrey Stevens wrote:
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>> Thanks all for your input.
>> My uneducated concern is with the security issues of exposing my computer system to outside eyes.
>> Is the DropBox folder isolated from the rest of my HD?
>> Geoff S
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>> From: bailey at me.com
>> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:29:20 -0500
>> To: dmmug at dmmug.org
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] does anyone have a comment on DropBox?
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>> Yeah, I will do a write-up for this to share with the group. At the moment, I am totally geeing on the new Lion install, so you have to wait a bit. I'll try to get to it tonight. I'll also cover using Drop Box and one of the web services to send it. 
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>> Cheers,
>> bailey
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>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:
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>> What's the easiest way to do this = I know about using Disk Utility to create a dmg but is there any way to automate it a bit = create the dmg and make it encrypted??
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>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Bailey Ford wrote:
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>> Encrypted DMG fixes the security issues completely and handles compression pretty well in one step. You can then use drop box or one of the you-send-it type services to get it from you to them. 
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> From: Bailey Ford <bailey at me.com>
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> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] iCloud; iWeb; Hoping for Clarifications
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> Executive short answer - you need a new home for your web pages. 
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> On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Jorgensen Jenny wrote:
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>> I have read the emails I've received from Apple.  I have some searching in Apple, but I am still confused.   Am I correct in understanding that iWeb will no longer host webpages as it currently does on MobileMe?  
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> iWeb is software - it never hosted web pages. The MobileMe service used to host web pages created in iWeb, but it will not do this after next summer.
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>> But, will iWeb still be available for creating webpages?  
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> Yes. You can still create web pages with iWeb. I have no idea if Apple will continue to update the software though. For now, it seems to work fine with Lion. 
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>> And, if iCloud will not host webpages, do you have a recommendation for a host for educators that does not include advertising?  
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> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/13/ten-ways-to-replace-iweb-and-mobileme-hosting/
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>> I am a teacher and basically have used my iWeb pages as photo pages and have hundreds of pictures on it.  I link to mobile me from my district page.  I am trying to think ahead.  I am thinking iCloud will work like Skydrive (which I just received on my school computer) which I also assume will work in much the same way as my iDisk through MobileMe except that it won't host my iWeb pages anymore.  Am I even close on my understanding?  Any improved understanding and clarification would really be appreciated.  
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> It does not appear that iCloud will work like this at all. Apple is clearly pushing three major services here - mail, addresses, and calendar info. They are also using it for backups, and for the new iTunes Match music service. They have not announced any service that would work like general remote storage that syncs like iDisk, but this kind of functionality might come in the near future. 
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>> Thank you.
>> Jenny
>> Jenny Jorgensen
>> jajorgy at aol.com
>> jajorgy1 at me.com
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>> "If animals play, this is because play is useful in the struggle for survival; because play practices and so perfects the skills needed in adult life".----Susanna Miller 
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> I love that quote.
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