[DM-MUG] Please look at the web site

[Chris Van Cleve]

I'll be the stick in the mud. :)

I don't care for Joomla and stopped using it entirely a couple years back. I had been sing it since it was Mambo and embroiled in several legal battles that led to it's 3rd name of Joomla. It is not, unfortunately, any more secure than WordPress. The number of exploits available are higher for Joomla than WP and WP development to counter security measures tends to happen more quickly as well.

You open the biggest security gates when you start adding 3rd party extensions. It's been my experience most of those are very poorly coded. The primary reason I dropped Joomla for my clients is that to do any real customization of a Joomla site requires both extensive PHP knowledge, but worse, knowledge of the Joomla APIs, which keep changing, sometimes without warning or redirection. Nothing worse than having code that has been working for 2 years suddenly throw your site into an error-cosm and have to spend hours fining out they dropped an API call you were relying on without properly deprecating it first.

OK, so that was all very technical, sorry. That is a problem with CMS software. Customizing it is very technical. Managing it, however, is usually dead-simple. So, do I recommend WP over Joomla? Not necessarily. I'm not using WP any more either. We wrote our own blog and forum software so we have complete control over it and the security. That isn't an option here, so a canned solution will be best. I suggest looking into Drupal and Concrete5. If you want the simplest management and the most extensibility and customization options, you really can't beat WordPress. Joomla is used by a number of commercial entities these days, so it is a valid choice. Just not my first.

My 0.02, take it for what it's worth.

Thanks,
Chris Van Cleve
chris at vanclevefamily.net

Journey forth my friend, by body if needs be...

On Apr 4, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Dennis LaMasters wrote:

> Hi Ray,
> 
> I suggest using Joomla. Kind of like WordPress but does much more, plus I
> think it is much more secured.
> 
> Lots of extensions. Does not require any HTML knowledge. I currently have 10
> sites running Joomla and my clients can update there sites within two or
> three hours of training.
> 
> Joomla is free and open source. If you need help installing Joomla, let me
> know.
> 
> You can learn more about Joomla at http://www.joomla.org/
> 
> Denny LaMasters
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> 
>> From: Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com>
>> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:53:01 -0500
>> To: DMMug Dmmug <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Subject: [DM-MUG] Please look at the web site
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> As part of an ongoing discussion of our website Victoria and I would like your
>> input on the question of what to do with the web site content.  Please give us
>> your comments. What don't we have that should be there, what can we get rid of
>> now, how should it look in the future. The officers will decide what is to be
>> done so give us your thoughts.
>> 
>> We feel that we should transition to a different host in the near future (we
>> have picked one)  and in the process find some way to maintain the site
>> without the HTML skills which are needed at the present. Any input on this
>> score would also be welcome. Even if it ends up that some of the ideas are not
>> used we need them to help our thinking.
>> 
>> Ray Bowler
>> rbowler at mchsi.com
>> 
>> 
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