From the 1984 shareholder meeting video footage I've seen, SJ claimed the father title for himself. Darcy On Mar 1, 2005, at 7:44 PM, jim lagnese wrote: > What I am surprised about is the lack of any comment from Jobs or > apple. > You'd think they'd have something to say, after all, he was the father > of > the Mac, or is that what the problem is? ;-)