[DM-MUG] Why can't Mac OS X be on our server?

[Bryan Baker]

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Joining this late, but as others have said, I think it's all political.=20=

You're asking the people who made a specious, but persuasive argument a=20=

few years ago that a PC mono-culture would be a cost-saving "good idea"=20=

and having macs peacefully sitting there on the network would burst=20
that bubble, and they will have less of a leg to stand on w/ other=20
teachers who are still mad about giving up macs in the first place.=20
Some of what they are shoveling may have been accurate before OSX, so=20
they may just be ignorant and operating under old info.

Anyway, re: dhcp, etc. they can also set up dhcp so it ONLY gives out=20
leases to known mac addresses (similar to what mediacom does) which=20
actually is a more secure set-up, since it maintains a central=20
authority, so a proxy server may not be your only "problem".

Not that it's likely to work, but you could propose that you could=20
"sandbox" your little corner of the network behind a NAT firewall, that=20=

they could configure to block everything but port(s) 80 (and 443) in=20
both directions. That way they're only giving up 1 IP on their network,=20=

you get what you need (and ONLY what you need). I don't think SW update=20=

needs anything but 80, but not sure. YOu could probably do this w/ a=20
little d-link or netgear router which hopefully they might feel warm=20
and fuzzy about.

I think the human element is the tricky part, since what got them to a=20=

PC mono-culture was a house of cards anyway, and proving that it's OK=20
to connect them would pull out one of the bottom cards. Unfortunately I=20=

don't see a whole lot of ways to inform them of the truth w/o them=20
losing face.

On May 31, 2004, at 8:44 AM, jim Lagnese wrote:
> Actually there is one scenario where it=92s not just enabling DHCP to=20=

> use the internet. They could be using a proxy server, one that does=20
> content filtering, and it could require authentication. Even if all=20
> you need is to have DHCP to connect, all they have to do is look at=20
> their DHCP leases and see who is connected. An increase of 14 would be=20=

> suspicious. On top of that, what if they limit the number of leases?=20=

> They may have to increase their pool to allow you to surf. Not a big=20=

> deal, but they would have to know.
>
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Bryan Baker
President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org
president@dmmug.org

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