[DM-MUG] Why can't Mac OS X be on our server?

Sun, 30 May 2004 23:39:56 -0500

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On 5/30/04 10:19 PM, "HWelch7625@aol.com" <HWelch7625@aol.com> wrote:

> Yes, Internet access is all I want. That way the kids can go to the Apple=
 site
> for information, Atomic Learning, and google for information related to t=
heir
> projects.   Do you think that is do-able? I'm not going to approach them =
until
> I have my grant money ready. I'm not trying to cause trouble for them, or
> extra expense. I just want to know if I'm being fed a line!
> Holly

If internet access is truly all you want, and not to share files on the
Windows network, then the Macs won=B9t interfere in any way with the Windows
network.  If you=B9re already set up in your classroom(s) with an ethernet
connection to the Internet, all you=B9ll need to do is plug in the Mac (or a
hub connected to several Macs), enable DHCP, and the Macs should be able to
connect to the Internet and to each other.  Additional expense:  zero.

If you don=B9t enable Windows file sharing, then the Windows boxes won=B9t even
see the Macs on the network.  They=B9re not shared, as far as Windows is
concerned.  If they=B9re concerned about files being shared from the Mac side
to the Windows side, their fears are unsubstantiated.  But that=B9s true even
if the Macs ARE sharing files with Windows machines.

I would think that it should be an advantage for all classrooms, regardless
of platform, to share important files from one classroom to another, or wit=
h
the administrative offices.  If, however, the English department doesn=B9t
want to play nicey-nice with the Auto Shop, for example, then they can allo=
w
or disallow access from particular locations, regardless of platform.

Ultimately, I fail to see what difference your particular preference of
operating system should make in network activity or access.  Networking any
two or more machines exposes each machine to the weaknesses of the other(s)=
.
If proper security measures are used, i.e., firewalls, antivirus software,
and common sense among users, then any platform =8B Windows, Linux, Unix,
Solaris, or Mac OS, is just as secure as the others.  I don=B9t hear
businesses disallowing Windows machines on their all-Unix networks.  There
is no reason Macs should not be allowed on a Windows network, especially in
an education environment.

As mentioned elsewhere In this forum, I=B9m sure any of us in the Users=B9 Grou=
p
would be happy to offer technical or persuasive assistance in any way you
see necessary.  Good luck.

Peace,
CW

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On 5/30/04 10:19 PM, &quot;HWelch7625@aol.com&quot; &l=
t;HWelch7625@aol.com&gt; wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, Internet access is all I want. That way the kids can go to the =
Apple site for information, Atomic Learning, and google for information rela=
ted to their projects. &nbsp;&nbsp;Do you think that is do-able? I'm not goi=
ng to approach them until I have my grant money ready. I'm not trying to cau=
se trouble for them, or extra expense. I just want to know if I'm being fed =
a line! 
Holly 
</BLOCKQUOTE> 
If internet access is truly all you want, and not to share files on the Win=
dows network, then the Macs won&#8217;t interfere in any way with the Window=
s network. &nbsp;If you&#8217;re already set up in your classroom(s) with an=
 ethernet connection to the Internet, all you&#8217;ll need to do is plug in=
 the Mac (or a hub connected to several Macs), enable DHCP, and the Macs sho=
uld be able to connect to the Internet and to each other. &nbsp;Additional e=
xpense: &nbsp;zero. 
 
If you don&#8217;t enable Windows file sharing, then the Windows boxes won&=
#8217;t even see the Macs on the network. &nbsp;They&#8217;re not shared, as=
 far as Windows is concerned. &nbsp;If they&#8217;re concerned about files b=
eing shared from the Mac side to the Windows side, their fears are unsubstan=
tiated. &nbsp;But that&#8217;s true even if the Macs ARE sharing files with =
Windows machines. 
 
I would think that it should be an advantage for all classrooms, regardless=
 of platform, to share important files from one classroom to another, or wit=
h the administrative offices. &nbsp;If, however, the English department does=
n&#8217;t want to play nicey-nice with the Auto Shop, for example, then they=
 can allow or disallow access from particular locations, regardless of platf=
orm. 
 
Ultimately, I fail to see what difference your particular preference of ope=
rating system should make in network activity or access. &nbsp;Networking an=
y two or more machines exposes each machine to the weaknesses of the other(s=
). &nbsp;If proper security measures are used, i.e., firewalls, antivirus so=
ftware, and common sense among users, then any platform &#8212; Windows, Lin=
ux, Unix, Solaris, or Mac OS, is just as secure as the others. &nbsp;I don&#=
8217;t hear businesses disallowing Windows machines on their all-Unix networ=
ks. &nbsp;There is no reason Macs should not be allowed on a Windows network=
, especially in an education environment. 
 
As mentioned elsewhere In this forum, I&#8217;m sure any of us in the Users=
&#8217; Group would be happy to offer technical or persuasive assistance in =
any way you see necessary. &nbsp;Good luck. 
 
Peace, 
CW
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