[DM-MUG] USB 2.0 vs firewire (was: new albook codename)

jim Lagnese dmmug@dmmug.org
Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:35:49 -0600


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Actually, what I said supports your premise. They aren't independent.


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> From: Jon Thompson <jon@mac-consultant.com>
> Reply-To: dmmug@dmmug.org
> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 09:46:06 -0600
> To: dmmug@dmmug.org
> Subject: [DM-MUG] USB 2.0 vs firewire (was: new albook codename)
> 
> Actually, this is not the entire story...
> 
> USB 2 is 460Mbps BURST.  What that means is that it occasionally
> attains 460, but averages much lower.
> 
> Firewire (400 or 800) reports the bus' sustained speed.  So you get the
> 400 or 800Mbps as an average speed.
> 
> What this results in is that Firewire is a faster interface, which
> Intel attempted to take down with the FUD for USB2.
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> Jon Thompson
> Jon Thompson Consulting
> jon@mac-consultant.com
> (515) 360-0250
> On Feb 17, 2004, at 1:22 PM, <alsplace@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> Which, sadly, explains why my much-$$$ 1.25GHz G4 is slower than my
>> friend's PC in this regards.  Darnit ;-)  Thanks for the insight.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jim Lagnese <jlagnese@mac.com>
>> To: dmmug@dmmug.org
>> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:17:42 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] new albook codename
>> 
>> USB 2.0 is not busmaster and so it's speed depends on the performance
>> of the
>> computer. FW is busmaster, so it doesn't matter so much or at all.
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<FONT COLOR=3D"#000098">&gt; From: Jon Thompson &lt;jon@mac-consultant.com&gt=
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&gt; Reply-To: dmmug@dmmug.org<BR>
&gt; Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 09:46:06 -0600<BR>
&gt; To: dmmug@dmmug.org<BR>
&gt; Subject: [DM-MUG] USB 2.0 vs firewire (was: new albook codename)<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Actually, this is not the entire story...<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; USB 2 is 460Mbps BURST. &nbsp;What that means is that it occasionally =
<BR>
&gt; attains 460, but averages much lower.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Firewire (400 or 800) reports the bus' sustained speed. &nbsp;So you g=
et the <BR>
&gt; 400 or 800Mbps as an average speed.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; What this results in is that Firewire is a faster interface, which <BR=
>
&gt; Intel attempted to take down with the FUD for USB2.<BR>
&gt; -- <BR>
&gt; Jon Thompson<BR>
&gt; Jon Thompson Consulting<BR>
&gt; jon@mac-consultant.com<BR>
&gt; (515) 360-0250<BR>
&gt; On Feb 17, 2004, at 1:22 PM, &lt;alsplace@pobox.com&gt; wrote:<BR>
&gt; <BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#006600">&gt;&gt; Which, sadly, explains why my much-$$=
$ 1.25GHz G4 is slower than my <BR>
&gt;&gt; friend's PC in this regards. &nbsp;Darnit ;-) &nbsp;Thanks for the=
 insight.<BR>
&gt;&gt; <BR>
&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>
&gt;&gt; From: jim Lagnese &lt;jlagnese@mac.com&gt;<BR>
&gt;&gt; To: dmmug@dmmug.org<BR>
&gt;&gt; Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:17:42 -0600<BR>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] new albook codename<BR>
&gt;&gt; <BR>
&gt;&gt; USB 2.0 is not busmaster and so it's speed depends on the performa=
nce <BR>
&gt;&gt; of the<BR>
&gt;&gt; computer. FW is busmaster, so it doesn't matter so much or at all.=
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&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>
&gt;&gt; Dmmug mailing list<BR>
&gt;&gt; Dmmug@dmmug.org<BR>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug">http://cialug.o=
rg/mailman/listinfo/dmmug</a><BR>
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