[DM-MUG] 3 crashes in 3 days

[James Lagnese]

You are up late.
 
On Thursday, June 03, 2004, at 01:11AM, Matt W <maccelerate@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Well, this is a lively thread.
>
>My weight lays in this direction: Suspect 10.3.4. Some success may be 
>had by reinstalling 10.3.4 using the Combo updater. I'd unplug all 
>devices first. Repair permissions afterwards. Still another method that 
>reaches below the software is the Power Manager reset mentioned by CW. 
>PowerBooks usually have a reset button or short procedure to follow, 
>desktops do not. You'll have to boot into Open Firmware and do a reset. 
>This is a scary technician trick, and you don't HAVE to know it or use 
>it to love the Mac.
>
>One thing I'll mention (and re-mention) is that repeating processes 
>such as the one I'll outline here can be detrimental to your Mac's 
>health. Like clearing/zapping PRAM, or Power Managers, once is usually 
>enough to ensure that a procedure has been performed. If you still have 
>a problem, don't just repeat the technique, something else is wrong. In 
>other words, don't beat a dead horse, you'll probably break your arm. 
>Use the arm of one of the many fine consultants who subscribe to this 
>list. They make their living (or try to) fixing Macs.
>
>So, here goes, hold down Command (a.k.a. Apple key)-Option-O-F on 
>Startup. That's 4 keys. You'll get a scary grey screen with text that 
>tells you to let up on the 4 keys. At the prompt, type "reset-nvram" 
>and hit return. On the next line type, "reset-all" and hit return. The 
>Mac will reboot, chime, and you'll have a reset Mac.
>
>Remember, this is a low-level reset that does a number of functions 
>including clearing the PRAM and Power Manager for all OS X Macs with 
>Open Firmware installed. Use it sparingly. If your Mac is so hosed that 
>it's not booting completely or exhibits very strange symptoms?and I'm 
>not just talking about apps quitting and icons not showing up 
>properly?this is a good tool. If problems persist, look elsewhere.
>
>Matthew
>
>On Jun 2, 2004, at 8:21 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>
>> At 5:22 PM -0400 on 6/2/04, CMSSpace@aol.com wrote about Re: [DM-MUG] 
>> 3 crashes in 3 days:
>>> I just had to add my opinion about this discussion.  Does anyone 
>>> running the X system feel like it is more complicated than Windows? I 
>>> keep reading about "log" files and going to the prompt line and 
>>> typing in a bunch of commands.  Gee, this sounds like DOS and early 
>>> windows stuff.
>>
>> OS X is much less complicated than Windows and in my experience than 
>> OS 9. What you see about log files and the command line are from 
>> people who enjoy the Unix part of the command line.. When the same 
>> situations happen in Windows you call your friendly technician to fix 
>> it. The ones talking about the CLI it are mostly technicians.  I have 
>> never "had" to use the terminal. I have played with it a few times 
>> just because I had a spell of geekiness but it wasn't necessary. It is 
>> less problems than my Windows machine at work. By the way I sometimes 
>> miss the old DOS. More stable than Windows and the Mac OS
>> -- 
>> Ray
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