[DM-MUG] 3 crashes in 3 days

[Jon Thompson]

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In regards to the command line...

None of the users I support know the command line.  In fact, I rarely=20
use it to work with my powerbook (working with remote machines is=20
another story).  To get the same benefits as OS 9, you do not need to=20
know the command line.

In regards to the log files...

When OS 9 has an extensions conflict, imagine that it would write a=20
little file when it freezes.  In this file, it tells you exactly what=20
extension(s) are causing the hang.  Basically this is what the log=20
files are in OS X.  You can ignore them if you would like, but if/when=20=

you have someone troubleshoot your machine, they will be happy the logs=20=

are there.  The logs also (with your consent) get sent to Apple, where=20=

they collect these as bugs, and squash them for all.

In regards to Norton...

Norton has been junk for at least 5 years.  If you upgrade your system,=20=

you have to go out and buy a new copy of Norton.  As a comparison,=20
Alsoft (makers of DiskWarrior) offers a free utility to burn an updated=20=

CD when they update their utility.  This, and the much better repair=20
rate from DiskWarrior resulted in me throwing away Norton a year ago,=20
and recommending my clients do the same.
--=20
Jon Thompson
Jon Thompson Consulting
jon@mac-consultant.com
(515) 360-0250
On Jun 2, 2004, at 4:22 PM, CMSSpace@aol.com wrote:

> I just had to add my opinion about this discussion.=A0 Does anyone=20
> running the X system feel like it is=A0more complicated than Windows?=A0=
 I=20
> keep reading about "log" files and going to the prompt line and typing=20=

> in a bunch of commands.=A0 Gee, this sounds like DOS and early windows=20=

> stuff.=A0 I am still using OS 9.x on my older Macs and refuse to give =
up=20
> the ease of use and stability I get most of the time.=A0 For more=20
> stability I actually use Windows XP. Easy to operate.=A0 Most of the=20=

> time it is stable and fast.=A0 Over the last nine months it has=A0only=20=

> crashed a few times.=A0 What happened to the nice user friendly Mac I=20=

> grew up with.=A0 Why should I have to type something into a command=20
> line?=A0 Why aren't those instructions in some sort of menu under a=20
> utility to help the user through strange difficulties?=A0 I didn't =
sign=20
> up to become a Unix user when I chose the Mac as my main computer. I'm=20=

> trying to still love Macs but this direction has really turned me=20
> off.=A0 And I just read that Symantec will no longer make Norton=20
> Utilities for the Mac.=A0
>  =A0
> In a message dated 6/2/2004 3:42:17 PM Central Daylight Time,=20
> jimt@netins.net writes:
> Victoria,
>
> =A0 =A0 Not that it'll prevent a reformat and reinstall, but=A0 under =
the
> top-level Library folder, then Logs folder for a file called=20
> "panic.log".
>  It's the crash dump the kernel creates before it dies.=A0 It might =
give
> you an indication of what's causing the problem and save you some=20
> time...
>  Then again, it might just be a bunch of memory registers and=20
> jibberish.
>
>
> Jim Turner
> jimt@netins.net
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 13:15:32 -0500
> "Victoria L. Herring" <vlherring@herringlaw.com> wrote:
>
> > I have now had 1 crash per day for last 3 days...not sure of cause.
>  > I have run Diskwarrior =3D friend sugg. backing up and formatting =
the
>  > HD.=A0 =A0 I can do, but should I??=A0 Any other ideas....
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 31, 2004, at 8:22 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:
> >
> > I have now had this happen two days running -- the grey opaque =
screen
> > coming down with the warning to restart box in the middle.=A0 So I=20=

> have.
> > But what might this portend?=A0 Is there anything I should do?? ...
> >
> > These are kernel panics.=A0 I would run Alsoft's DiskWarrior.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > I ran DiskWarrior yesterday.=A0 It just panicked again.=A0 Ideas???
> > --
> > Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa;=A0=A0 Attorney at Law, =
Herring Law
>  > Firm, Consulting in and handling civil rights,=A0 discrimination =
and
>  > employment law matters:=A0 http://www.herringlaw.com -=A0 email:=A0 =
VLH at
> > herringlaw.com or victoriaherring at Mac.com
>
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