[DM-MUG] 600 MHz iBook refuses to take OS X

[Matt W]

Sorry if I'm a bit late here. It could be a bad drive or bad RAM. OS 9=20=

is much more forgiving than X and often the Apple Hardware Test doesn't=20=

pick it up, even if it is bad.

I've touched base with a few consultants who've removed the case, taken=20=

out the drive and the drive was fine. It was the onboard (read: logic=20
board) ATA controller that had gone bad. It seems to be more than an=20
isolated occurrence, but don't take my word for it.

Matthew
On Aug 3, 2004, at 4:39 PM, Bailey Ford wrote:

> Hey there,
>
> What a fun time you had! I had a few thoughts while reading your post.
>
> When you say 'wiping the drive' it sounds to me like you are just=20
> deleting all the files, but not reformatting the drive. I would=20
> definitely reformat this drive before trying to install any version of=20=

> OS X again. This would insure that all the invisible files and the=20
> boot sector were erased properly. Make sure you format it as an HFS+=20=

> drive.
>
> If you and the Apple rep in Chicago suspect a defective logic board,=20=

> you might run the hardware diagnostics that come with most Macs. This=20=

> would test most of the hardware components to make sure they pass=20
> basic tests of functionality and should highlight seriously defective=20=

> and broken hardware. I did not receive this disk with my most recent=20=

> mac, but I have in the past. Worth a try if you have it.
>
> Keep us updated!
>
> -bailey
>
> On Aug 3, 2004, at 3:19 PM, CW Smith wrote:
>
>> Mac mystery of the week:
>>
>> My friend Rose called me a few weeks ago when she was trying to=20
>> upgrade to
>> Panther on her 600 MHz iBook.  The machine bombed in the middle of =
the
>> install and wouldn't (of course) boot to OSX afterward.  She booted=20=

>> from the
>> installer CD, and tried again to install OSX, but the machine told=20
>> her OSX
>> was already installed.  I showed her how to change the startup folder=20=

>> to
>> OS9, and she's at least able to use her iBook now.
>>
>> A couple of weeks later, she brought her iBook to me to see whether=20=

>> I'd have
>> any luck.  I began by removing all visible OSX system files and=20
>> emptying the
>> trash.  I then tried installing Panther, with exactly the same=20
>> result.  I
>> wiped OSX files again and tried installing Puma (10.1).  Again, same=20=

>> result.
>>
>> I then backed up her hard drive to my iPod, wiped her drive clean,=20
>> and tried
>> installing Panther again.  Nope.  I wiped her drive clean AGAIN, then=20=

>> tried
>> Puma.  No way, Jos=E9.
>>
>> I wiped her drive once more, put her files back on from my iPod, and=20=

>> gave
>> her iBook back to her in the same condition in which I received it:=20=

>> booting
>> from OS9, with no OSX.
>>
>> I suggested to her that Apple had a program for dealing with=20
>> defective logic
>> boards on iBooks, and suggested that this may be the root cause of =
the
>> problem.  She took it to an Apple dealer in Chicago, who agreed that=20=

>> the
>> logic board may be to blame.  Apple, on the other hand, says that=20
>> this is
>> NOT indicative of a faulty logic board and has washed their hands of=20=

>> it.
>>
>> What would cause these installation problems?  Are there other files,
>> perhaps invisible from OS9, that are interfering with the =
installation
>> process?  I know her processor and memory are capable of Panther (I=20=

>> have an
>> old Blueberry iBook that runs Panther without a hiccup), but I'm at a=20=

>> loss
>> as to what the glitch is that's causing the installation crashes.
>>
>> Any help in this matter would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Peace,
>> CW
>>
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