[DM-MUG] 600 MHz iBook refuses to take OS X

[Bailey Ford]

hmmmm...

glad to hear you were reformatting and did the pram/pmu things.

how about installing OS X on the ipod and then cloning it onto the=20
ibook's drive?

where in the install process does it crash? Do the install disks work=20
with other machines?

you can repair permissions just by booting from the CD.

Don't worry - we'll figure it out. :)

-bailey

On Aug 3, 2004, at 6:18 PM, CW Smith wrote:

> Zapped the PRAM and reset the PMU.  Attempted to repair permissions=20
> but of
> course there was no OSX to boot from.  Guys, I'm at my wits end.
>
>
> On 8/3/04 6:11 PM, "Ray Bowler" <rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>> Since we are groping--did you try zaping the PRAM?
>>
>> At 5:24 PM -0500 on 8/3/04, CW Smith wrote about Re: [DM-MUG] 600 MHz
>> iBook refuses to take OS X:
>>> Yes, I did in fact reformat the drive.  Both times.
>>>
>>> On 8/3/04 4:39 PM, "Bailey Ford" <bailey@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hey there,
>>>>
>>>>  What a fun time you had! I had a few thoughts while reading your=20=

>>>> post.
>>>>
>>>>  When you say 'wiping the drive' it sounds to me like you are just
>>>>  deleting all the files, but not reformatting the drive. I would
>>>>  definitely reformat this drive before trying to install any=20
>>>> version of
>>>>  OS X again. This would insure that all the invisible files and the=20=

>>>> boot
>>>>  sector were erased properly. Make sure you format it as an HFS+=20
>>>> drive.
>>>>
>>>>  If you and the Apple rep in Chicago suspect a defective logic=20
>>>> board,
>>>>  you might run the hardware diagnostics that come with most Macs.=20=

>>>> This
>>>>  would test most of the hardware components to make sure they pass=20=

>>>> basic
>>>>  tests of functionality and should highlight seriously defective =
and
>>>>  broken hardware. I did not receive this disk with my most recent=20=

>>>> mac,
>>>>  but I have in the past. Worth a try if you have it.
>>>>
>>>>  Keep us updated!
>>>>
>>>>  -bailey
>>>>
>>>>  On Aug 3, 2004, at 3:19 PM, CW Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Mac mystery of the week:
>>>>>
>>>>>  My friend Rose called me a few weeks ago when she was trying to
>>>>>  upgrade to
>>>>>  Panther on her 600 MHz iBook.  The machine bombed in the middle=20=

>>>>> of the
>>>>>  install and wouldn't (of course) boot to OSX afterward.  She=20
>>>>> booted
>>>>>  from the
>>>>>  installer CD, and tried again to install OSX, but the machine=20
>>>>> told her
>>>>>  OSX
>>>>>  was already installed.  I showed her how to change the startup=20
>>>>> folder
>>>>>  to
>>>>>  OS9, and she's at least able to use her iBook now.
>>>>>
>>>>>  A couple of weeks later, she brought her iBook to me to see=20
>>>>> whether
>>>>>  I'd have
>>>>>  any luck.  I began by removing all visible OSX system files and
>>>>>  emptying the
>>>>>  trash.  I then tried installing Panther, with exactly the same=20
>>>>> result.
>>>>>   I
>>>>>  wiped OSX files again and tried installing Puma (10.1).  Again,=20=

>>>>> same
>>>>>  result.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I then backed up her hard drive to my iPod, wiped her drive=20
>>>>> clean, and
>>>>>  tried
>>>>>  installing Panther again.  Nope.  I wiped her drive clean AGAIN,=20=

>>>>> then
>>>>>  tried
>>>>>  Puma.  No way, Jos=E9.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I wiped her drive once more, put her files back on from my iPod,=20=

>>>>> and
>>>>>  gave
>>>>>  her iBook back to her in the same condition in which I received=20=

>>>>> it:
>>>>>  booting
>>>>>  from OS9, with no OSX.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I suggested to her that Apple had a program for dealing with=20
>>>>> defective
>>>>>  logic
>>>>>  boards on iBooks, and suggested that this may be the root cause=20=

>>>>> of the
>>>>>  problem.  She took it to an Apple dealer in Chicago, who agreed=20=

>>>>> that
>>>>>  the
>>>>>  logic board may be to blame.  Apple, on the other hand, says that=20=

>>>>> this
>>>>>  is
>>>>>  NOT indicative of a faulty logic board and has washed their hands=20=

>>>>> of
>>>>>  it.
>>>>>
>>>>>  What would cause these installation problems?  Are there other=20
>>>>> files,
>>>>>  perhaps invisible from OS9, that are interfering with the=20
>>>>> installation
>>>>>  process?  I know her processor and memory are capable of Panther=20=

>>>>> (I
>>>>>  have an
>>>>>  old Blueberry iBook that runs Panther without a hiccup), but I'm=20=

>>>>> at a
>>>>>  loss
>>>>>  as to what the glitch is that's causing the installation crashes.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Any help in this matter would be much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Peace,
>>>>>  CW
>>>>>
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