[DM-MUG] 600 MHz iBook refuses to take OS X

[CW Smith]

Zapped the PRAM and reset the PMU.  Attempted to repair permissions but of
course there was no OSX to boot from.  Guys, I'm at my wits end.


On 8/3/04 6:11 PM, "Ray Bowler" <rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:

> Since we are groping--did you try zaping the PRAM?
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> At 5:24 PM -0500 on 8/3/04, CW Smith wrote about Re: [DM-MUG] 600 MHz
> iBook refuses to take OS X:
>> Yes, I did in fact reformat the drive.  Both times.
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>> On 8/3/04 4:39 PM, "Bailey Ford" <bailey@mac.com> wrote:
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>>>  Hey there,
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>>>  What a fun time you had! I had a few thoughts while reading your post.
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>>>  When you say 'wiping the drive' it sounds to me like you are just
>>>  deleting all the files, but not reformatting the drive. I would
>>>  definitely reformat this drive before trying to install any version of
>>>  OS X again. This would insure that all the invisible files and the boo=
t
>>>  sector were erased properly. Make sure you format it as an HFS+ drive.
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>>>  If you and the Apple rep in Chicago suspect a defective logic board,
>>>  you might run the hardware diagnostics that come with most Macs. This
>>>  would test most of the hardware components to make sure they pass basi=
c
>>>  tests of functionality and should highlight seriously defective and
>>>  broken hardware. I did not receive this disk with my most recent mac,
>>>  but I have in the past. Worth a try if you have it.
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>>>  Keep us updated!
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>>>  -bailey
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>>>  On Aug 3, 2004, at 3:19 PM, CW Smith wrote:
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>>>>  Mac mystery of the week:
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>>>>  My friend Rose called me a few weeks ago when she was trying to
>>>>  upgrade to
>>>>  Panther on her 600 MHz iBook.  The machine bombed in the middle of th=
e
>>>>  install and wouldn't (of course) boot to OSX afterward.  She booted
>>>>  from the
>>>>  installer CD, and tried again to install OSX, but the machine told he=
r
>>>>  OSX
>>>>  was already installed.  I showed her how to change the startup folder
>>>>  to
>>>>  OS9, and she's at least able to use her iBook now.
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>>>>  A couple of weeks later, she brought her iBook to me to see whether
>>>>  I'd have
>>>>  any luck.  I began by removing all visible OSX system files and
>>>>  emptying the
>>>>  trash.  I then tried installing Panther, with exactly the same result=
.
>>>>   I
>>>>  wiped OSX files again and tried installing Puma (10.1).  Again, same
>>>>  result.
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>>>>  I then backed up her hard drive to my iPod, wiped her drive clean, an=
d
>>>>  tried
>>>>  installing Panther again.  Nope.  I wiped her drive clean AGAIN, then
>>>>  tried
>>>>  Puma.  No way, Jos=E9.
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>>>>  I wiped her drive once more, put her files back on from my iPod, and
>>>>  gave
>>>>  her iBook back to her in the same condition in which I received it:
>>>>  booting
>>>>  from OS9, with no OSX.
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>>>>  I suggested to her that Apple had a program for dealing with defectiv=
e
>>>>  logic
>>>>  boards on iBooks, and suggested that this may be the root cause of th=
e
>>>>  problem.  She took it to an Apple dealer in Chicago, who agreed that
>>>>  the
>>>>  logic board may be to blame.  Apple, on the other hand, says that thi=
s
>>>>  is
>>>>  NOT indicative of a faulty logic board and has washed their hands of
>>>>  it.
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>>>>  What would cause these installation problems?  Are there other files,
>>>>  perhaps invisible from OS9, that are interfering with the installatio=
n
>>>>  process?  I know her processor and memory are capable of Panther (I
>>>>  have an
>>>>  old Blueberry iBook that runs Panther without a hiccup), but I'm at a
>>>>  loss
>>>>  as to what the glitch is that's causing the installation crashes.
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>>>>  Any help in this matter would be much appreciated.
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>>>>  Peace,
>>>>  CW
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