[DM-MUG] 600 MHz iBook refuses to take OS X

Ray Bowler dmmug@dmmug.org
Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:11:23 -0500


Since we are groping--did you try zaping the PRAM?

At 5:24 PM -0500 on 8/3/04, CW Smith wrote about Re: [DM-MUG] 600 MHz 
iBook refuses to take OS X:
>Yes, I did in fact reformat the drive.  Both times.
>
>On 8/3/04 4:39 PM, "Bailey Ford" <bailey@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hey there,
>>
>>  What a fun time you had! I had a few thoughts while reading your post.
>>
>>  When you say 'wiping the drive' it sounds to me like you are just
>>  deleting all the files, but not reformatting the drive. I would
>>  definitely reformat this drive before trying to install any version of
>>  OS X again. This would insure that all the invisible files and the boot
>>  sector were erased properly. Make sure you format it as an HFS+ drive.
>>
>>  If you and the Apple rep in Chicago suspect a defective logic board,
>>  you might run the hardware diagnostics that come with most Macs. This
>>  would test most of the hardware components to make sure they pass basic
>>  tests of functionality and should highlight seriously defective and
>>  broken hardware. I did not receive this disk with my most recent mac,
>>  but I have in the past. Worth a try if you have it.
>>
>>  Keep us updated!
>>
>>  -bailey
>>
>>  On Aug 3, 2004, at 3:19 PM, CW Smith wrote:
>>
>>>  Mac mystery of the week:
>>>
>>>  My friend Rose called me a few weeks ago when she was trying to
>>>  upgrade to
>>>  Panther on her 600 MHz iBook.  The machine bombed in the middle of the
>>>  install and wouldn't (of course) boot to OSX afterward.  She booted
>>>  from the
>>>  installer CD, and tried again to install OSX, but the machine told her
>>>  OSX
>>>  was already installed.  I showed her how to change the startup folder
>>>  to
>>>  OS9, and she's at least able to use her iBook now.
>>>
>>>  A couple of weeks later, she brought her iBook to me to see whether
>>>  I'd have
>>>  any luck.  I began by removing all visible OSX system files and
>>>  emptying the
>>>  trash.  I then tried installing Panther, with exactly the same result.
>>>   I
>>>  wiped OSX files again and tried installing Puma (10.1).  Again, same
>>>  result.
>>>
>>>  I then backed up her hard drive to my iPod, wiped her drive clean, and
>>>  tried
>>>  installing Panther again.  Nope.  I wiped her drive clean AGAIN, then
>>>  tried
>>>  Puma.  No way, José.
>>>
>>>  I wiped her drive once more, put her files back on from my iPod, and
>>>  gave
>>>  her iBook back to her in the same condition in which I received it:
>>>  booting
>>>  from OS9, with no OSX.
>>>
>>>  I suggested to her that Apple had a program for dealing with defective
>>>  logic
>>>  boards on iBooks, and suggested that this may be the root cause of the
>>>  problem.  She took it to an Apple dealer in Chicago, who agreed that
>>>  the
>>>  logic board may be to blame.  Apple, on the other hand, says that this
>>>  is
>>>  NOT indicative of a faulty logic board and has washed their hands of
>>>  it.
>>>
>>>  What would cause these installation problems?  Are there other files,
>>>  perhaps invisible from OS9, that are interfering with the installation
>>>  process?  I know her processor and memory are capable of Panther (I
>>>  have an
>>>  old Blueberry iBook that runs Panther without a hiccup), but I'm at a
>>>  loss
>>>  as to what the glitch is that's causing the installation crashes.
>>>
>>>  Any help in this matter would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>>  Peace,
>>>  CW
>>>
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