[ciapug] Frameworks

[Chris Hettinger]

Thanks Matt,
I feel that Matt has a excellent suggestion and it will give a bit of 
focus to our framework discussion next month. (recap and info about next 
meeting coming up!)

My idea for the small application: Your To Do List.
Create a simplistic app to insert and modify items on a to do list, or 
shopping list. Perhaps, those comfortable with their chosen framework 
could demonstrate during the meeting just now easy it would be to add 
new fields, or a new feature (status, and completed dates) to their app.

Doesn't have to be fancy! Just enough to give the group your impressions 
of the framework. Code to demonstrate would be valuable bonus.

If you are interested in tackling this little app, or something else, 
let us know!


A few additional PHP frameworks I've seen mentioned in reviews or articles.

http://www.blueshoes.org/
http://c.anvas.es/
http://www.horde.org/
http://www.pradosoft.com/
http://framework.zend.com/

This Wikipedia list contains a fairly comprehensive list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_application_frameworks

-Chris

Matthew Nuzum wrote:
> Someone I correspond with loves this PHP framework called Agavi:
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/5907?p=Agavi
> 
> I've never used it, and I find their website's lack of helpful
> information kind of a put-off, but this guy is a major code purist and
> a fanatic about well organized and well optimized code. That he speaks
> for it means to me that its worth investigating. Anyone here know
> anything about it?
> 
> We talked last night about discussing frameworks at a future meeting,
> here's an idea, just as a topic starter:
> 
> What if each of us (who are interested in it) picked a framework and
> then we all tried to build the same application with it. We could
> start with clearly defined goals, the same HTML and end with roughly
> the same results. Then compare how easy or difficult it was to create
> the application with the various frameworks.
> 
> Then, at the meeting, we could each do a lightning talk about what was
> good, bad and ugly regarding the framework we evaluated.
> 
> If we did this, I think it'd be interesting if we included a few
> non-php frameworks, such as Rails (Ruby), Django (Python) and Grails
> (Java). For PHP I know of Cake, Symphony and the aforementioned agave.
> Any others?
> 
> http://www.rubyonrails.com/
> http://www.djangoproject.com/
> http://grails.codehaus.org/
> http://www.cakephp.org/
> http://www.symfony-project.com/
> http://www.agavi.org/
>