[ciapug] Re: meetings

Barry Von Ahsen barry at vonahsen.com
Tue Aug 21 13:09:29 CDT 2007 

whatever night we chose, someone somewhere won't be able to come.  I 
think initially, we picked the 1st Wed. because Carl was the only one 
with a conflict, so he was the one to get inconvenienced

we want to get meetings started again after 2 years, let's not derail it 
by squabbling about what night.  I think Tuesday is the first available 
night, not necessarily the permanent night

so we have:
not tuesday
not wednesday

is 1st monday acceptable (other than holidays)?

-barry


Matthew Nuzum wrote:
> Does it have to be on the same day of the week every time? Some people
> will have problems with any day chosen. By rotating through days, it
> increases the chances that everyone will be able to attend at least
> occasionally.
> 
> On 8/21/07, carl-olsen at mchsi.com <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
>> The first Wednesday doesn't work for me.  I thought we had talked about the first Monday and this particular Monday is a holiday.  For those would prefer not to have me disrupting the meetings, the first Wednesday would be a good pick.
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: David Champion <dchampion at visionary.com>
>>> Not like we have to schedule around me... but Tuesday's don't work well
>>> for me - I have meetings twice a month on Tuesdays already. :)
>>>
>>> At one point we had talked about having them on the first Wednesday of
>>> the month - this would be an every other Wednesday thing for those of us
>>> who are in the Linux user group.
>>>
>>> -dc
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Bibbs wrote:
>>>> I have no idea as things seem to be morphing a bit.  Generally I think Monday
>>> was agreed on but because the Monday prior was a holiday it was moved to
>>> Tuesday. Of course I don't help the group in any sort of official capacity so
>>> nothing I can say would be official.
>>>> --Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Jason Shaw <jasonshaw at gmail.com>
>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:27:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
>>>>
>>>> I'm sad I'll miss this, is the meeting always going to be on Tuesday nights?
>>>> -Jason
>>>>
>>>> On 8/20/07, Carl Olsen <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>> I will see you there!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank Tony for both the hospitality and for the presentation!
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
>>>>> Of Chris Hettinger
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:29 PM
>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
>>>>>
>>>>> Further details for the September 4th Meeting:
>>>>>
>>>>> The location is at 1555 SE Delaware Avenue, Suite G, Ankeny.  They are
>>>>> in the suite at the northwest corner of the building.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1555+SE+Delaware+Avenue,+An
>>>>> keny,+Iowa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.887524,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=41.716
>>>>> 349,-93.581028&spn=0.006631,0.014591&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've indicated to Tony a start time of 7:00 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony has offered, as one discussion topic, to demonstrate the XSS
>>>>> vulnerability and it's potential for being exploited.
>>>>>
>>>>> -ch
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Hettinger wrote:
>>>>>> I do have a location lined up for to us to meet on Tuesday September 4th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony Clifton has invited us to use the meeting room at Captain Jack's in
>>>>>> Ankeny. A wireless access point will be available for use during the
>>>>>> meeting. The meeting room does have a beverage and snack machine nearby.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the full details at home and I will update the list this evening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Parks wrote:
>>>>>>> Has a location been set???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    1. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
>>>>>>>>    2. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
>>>>>>>>    3. Re: Meetings (Matthew Nuzum)
>>>>>>>>    4. Re: Meetings (Tony Bibbs)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:55:35 +0000
>>>>>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> <081520071955.27345.46C35A36000F276400006AD1219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
>>>>> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That works for me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any location ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Tony
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
>>>>>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
>>>>>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
>>>>>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
>>>>>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -ch
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
>>>>>>>>>> nights that
>>>>>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
>>>>>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
>>>>>>>>>> demo I saw
>>>>>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
>>>>>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
>>>>>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
>>>>>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
>>>>>>>>> doing OOP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
>>>>>>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
>>>>>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
>>>>>>>>>>> Chalk me up
>>>>>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
>>>>>>>>>>> hosting
>>>>>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
>>>>>>>>>>> am not sure
>>>>>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
>>>>>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
>>>>>>>>>>> group to
>>>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
>>>>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
>>>>>>>>>>> would be interested
>>>>>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:09:56 +0000
>>>>>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> <081520072009.12065.46C35D93000B616400002F21219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
>>>>> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Iowa .NET User Group was meeting at Grandview College, but
>>>>>>>> recently moved to the DMACC west campus.  They have a nice auditorium
>>>>>>>> with overhead projection for laptops.  I think it seats around 200 or
>>>>>>>> more.  DMACC said it was extremely interested in promoting the group
>>>>>>>> because of the technology connection.  They want to start teaching
>>>>>>>> more types of technology.  I know it is difficult to find PHP and
>>>>>>>> MySQL training and I also know those two technologies are extremely
>>>>>>>> popular.  It might be a good fit for the CIAPUG (and I wouldn't have
>>>>>>>> to worry about scheduling conflicts).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know if we want to start out with something that ambitious,
>>>>>>>> so it's just a thought.  The Agile group was meeting at the Okaboji
>>>>>>>> Grill (maybe they still are, I haven't been to a meeting yet).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any location ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Tony
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
>>>>>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
>>>>>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
>>>>>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
>>>>>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -ch
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
>>>>>>>>>> nights that
>>>>>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
>>>>>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
>>>>>>>>>> demo I saw
>>>>>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
>>>>>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
>>>>>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
>>>>>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
>>>>>>>>> doing OOP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
>>>>>>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
>>>>>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
>>>>>>>>>>> Chalk me up
>>>>>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
>>>>>>>>>>> hosting
>>>>>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
>>>>>>>>>>> am not sure
>>>>>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
>>>>>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
>>>>>>>>>>> group to
>>>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
>>>>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
>>>>>>>>>>> would be interested
>>>>>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:11:20 -0500
>>>>>>>> From: "Matthew Nuzum" <newz at bearfruit.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>>>>> To: dave at 58ghz.net, ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>>>     <f3c0b4080708151311v416660b1vcf88abb1e70a32d5 at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/15/07, Dave J. Hala Jr. <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am I the only PHP person that still writes procedural code? Its not
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> I'm against it or can't, there's just not a reason to make a change at
>>>>>>>>> this point.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I'm using PHP as a templating language, then my code is procedural.
>>>>>>>> However, on bigger project where long-term maintainability is
>>>>>>>> necessary, then I end up writing some classes for logic and
>>>>>>>> processing. These get automatically prepended and then procedural code
>>>>>>>> or smarty is used to display the data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>>>>>>> Mike Parks
>>>>>>> Captain Jack Communications
>>>>>>> WebSite Development and Hosting
>>>>>>> www.captainjack.com
>>>>>>> Phone: 515-964-8500
>>>>>>> Fax: 515-964-4685
>>>
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