[ciapug] Re: meetings

Tony Bibbs tony at tonybibbs.com
Tue Aug 21 12:26:11 CDT 2007 

Only gripe with that is the reason some of us can't make the Wednesday CIALUG meetings would be the same reason I couldn't make a Wednesday CIAPUG meeting. 

Any day is fine, actually...we can't accommodate everybody's schedule.

--Tony

----- Original Message ----
From: David Champion <dchampion at visionary.com>
To: ciapug at cialug.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings

Not like we have to schedule around me... but Tuesday's don't work well
for me - I have meetings twice a month on Tuesdays already. :)

At one point we had talked about having them on the first Wednesday of
the month - this would be an every other Wednesday thing for those of us
who are in the Linux user group.

-dc


Tony Bibbs wrote:
> I have no idea as things seem to be morphing a bit.  Generally I think Monday was agreed on but because the Monday prior was a holiday it was moved to Tuesday. Of course I don't help the group in any sort of official capacity so nothing I can say would be official.
> 
> --Tony
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jason Shaw <jasonshaw at gmail.com>
> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:27:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
> 
> I'm sad I'll miss this, is the meeting always going to be on Tuesday nights?
> -Jason
> 
> On 8/20/07, Carl Olsen <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
>> I will see you there!
>>
>> Thank Tony for both the hospitality and for the presentation!
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
>> Of Chris Hettinger
>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:29 PM
>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
>>
>> Further details for the September 4th Meeting:
>>
>> The location is at 1555 SE Delaware Avenue, Suite G, Ankeny.  They are
>> in the suite at the northwest corner of the building.
>>
>> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1555+SE+Delaware+Avenue,+An
>> keny,+Iowa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.887524,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=41.716
>> 349,-93.581028&spn=0.006631,0.014591&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1
>>
>>
>>
>> I've indicated to Tony a start time of 7:00 PM
>>
>> Tony has offered, as one discussion topic, to demonstrate the XSS
>> vulnerability and it's potential for being exploited.
>>
>> -ch
>>
>>
>> Chris Hettinger wrote:
>>> I do have a location lined up for to us to meet on Tuesday September 4th.
>>>
>>> Tony Clifton has invited us to use the meeting room at Captain Jack's in
>>> Ankeny. A wireless access point will be available for use during the
>>> meeting. The meeting room does have a beverage and snack machine nearby.
>>>
>>> I have the full details at home and I will update the list this evening.
>>>
>>> -chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Parks wrote:
>>>> Has a location been set???
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
>>>>>    2. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
>>>>>    3. Re: Meetings (Matthew Nuzum)
>>>>>    4. Re: Meetings (Tony Bibbs)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:55:35 +0000
>>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>
>> <081520071955.27345.46C35A36000F276400006AD1219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
>> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That works for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any location ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
>>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
>>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
>>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
>>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -ch
>>>>>>
>>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
>>>>>>> nights that
>>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
>>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
>>>>>>> demo I saw
>>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
>>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
>>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
>>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
>>>>>> doing OOP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
>>>>>>> others.
>>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
>>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
>>>>>>>> Chalk me up
>>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
>>>>>>>> hosting
>>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
>>>>>>>> am not sure
>>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
>>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
>>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
>>>>>>>> group to
>>>>>> include
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
>>>>>>>> would be interested
>>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
>>>>>>> ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:09:56 +0000
>>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>
>> <081520072009.12065.46C35D93000B616400002F21219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
>> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Iowa .NET User Group was meeting at Grandview College, but
>>>>> recently moved to the DMACC west campus.  They have a nice auditorium
>>>>> with overhead projection for laptops.  I think it seats around 200 or
>>>>> more.  DMACC said it was extremely interested in promoting the group
>>>>> because of the technology connection.  They want to start teaching
>>>>> more types of technology.  I know it is difficult to find PHP and
>>>>> MySQL training and I also know those two technologies are extremely
>>>>> popular.  It might be a good fit for the CIAPUG (and I wouldn't have
>>>>> to worry about scheduling conflicts).
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if we want to start out with something that ambitious,
>>>>> so it's just a thought.  The Agile group was meeting at the Okaboji
>>>>> Grill (maybe they still are, I haven't been to a meeting yet).
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any location ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
>>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
>>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
>>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
>>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -ch
>>>>>>
>>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
>>>>>>> nights that
>>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
>>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
>>>>>>> demo I saw
>>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
>>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
>>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
>>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
>>>>>> doing OOP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
>>>>>>> others.
>>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
>>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
>>>>>>>> Chalk me up
>>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
>>>>>>>> hosting
>>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
>>>>>>>> am not sure
>>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
>>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
>>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
>>>>>>>> group to
>>>>>> include
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
>>>>>>>> would be interested
>>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
>>>>>>> ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:11:20 -0500
>>>>> From: "Matthew Nuzum" <newz at bearfruit.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
>>>>> To: dave at 58ghz.net, ciapug at cialug.org
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>     <f3c0b4080708151311v416660b1vcf88abb1e70a32d5 at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/15/07, Dave J. Hala Jr. <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I the only PHP person that still writes procedural code? Its not
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> I'm against it or can't, there's just not a reason to make a change at
>>>>>> this point.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Depends.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I'm using PHP as a templating language, then my code is procedural.
>>>>> However, on bigger project where long-term maintainability is
>>>>> necessary, then I end up writing some classes for logic and
>>>>> processing. These get automatically prepended and then procedural code
>>>>> or smarty is used to display the data.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>>>> Mike Parks
>>>> Captain Jack Communications
>>>> WebSite Development and Hosting
>>>> www.captainjack.com
>>>> Phone: 515-964-8500
>>>> Fax: 515-964-4685


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