[ciapug] PHP Frameworks (and Ruby on Rails)

[Dave J. Hala Jr.]

On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 11:14, Tony Bibbs wrote:
> Here at the state we have our own homegrown framework built on things 
> like Creole, Propel, MVCnPHP, PEAR::HTML_Template_Flexy and it's all good.
> 
> Frameworks are a good thing but require considerable ramp-up so for 
> smaller projects they can be overkill...even a waste of time.  For 
> larger projects, say, 50 database table and up, a framework is an 
> absolute must.  I've played with almost all that you list below and all 
> have their pros/cons and I think you simply have to pick the one that 
> suits your needs as much as possible.
> 
> What almost all of the ones listed don't seem to support in automated 
> unit testing and build management which is something we just have to 
> have here.  We're using CruiseControl, Ant (yes, Ant, not phing) and 
> PHPUnit2 to do automated daily builds.  Good thing, though, is  you can 
> integrate those into the said frameworks below but it's not 
> out-of-the-box.
> 

> I'm sure Ruby is fine, but if it ain't broke...

Ummm.... didn't I get a quite a rant the last time I said this? (if it
ain't broke...)
<g>


:) Dave

> 
> --Tony
> 
> Scott Phillips wrote:
> > I'm intrigued by all the hype surrounding Ruby on Rails, but am not 
> > thrilled to spend time learning a language that (at first glance, at 
> > least) appears to have radically different syntax than anything I've 
> > used before. My to-read list is too long already. What are your thoughts 
> > on the various PHP frameworks that are available? Is there One Framework 
> > to Rule Them All? And while we're at it, what are your thoughts about Ruby?
> > 
> > http://www.theweb20dev.com/wordpress/2006/05/03/5-next-generation-php-frameworks/
> > 
> > 
> > This article, as seen on digg yesterday, mentions these:
> > Symfony
> > CakePHP
> > Zend's Framework
> > Agavi
> > PHP on Trax
> > 
> > 
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