[ciapug] Re: design/layout process

Sat Apr 29 17:40:55 CDT 2006

That's my issue too. I'm definitely not a designer. However, I think its
important to keep learning new stuff.

It would be great to learn to how to do some basic designer stuff. 

On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 14:50, Mike Parks wrote:
> Design, not exactly my strong suit. Thats were the designers come in. lol.
> But for my personal sites, I use Photoshop and Dreamweaver to get the design 
> layed out. Then msake it a class file. And build the PHP in Zend Studio, or 
> Eclipse.
> 
> ;-)
> Mike
> 
> 
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> > From: "Mike Parks" <parksmike at dwx.com>
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> > Damn Spammers... Sreedhar Reddy <kikkuri_sreedharreddy at yahoo.com>
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> > So what's up? Did to group die? Or just nothing new?
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> > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:24:39 -0500
> > From: "Carl Olsen" <carl-olsen at mchsi.com>
> > Subject: RE: [ciapug] Re:
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> > Only the walking dead are here today. ;-)
> >
> > I'm busy reading about AJAX Patterns and Best Practices (Apress.com), but
> > it's mostly JavaScript running with ASP.NET, Mono, and JSP (threading and
> > caching, so far).  I tried the threading example with PHP and it worked.
> >
> > <?php
> >    sleep(10);
> >    print("something");
> > ?>
> >
> > You send an AJAX request to load this PHP page which hangs for ten 
> > seconds.
> > While it is hanging, you send a second AJAX request to another page 
> > (usually
> > an XML file) and it pulls in the content from the second page while the
> > first one is still hanging.  The example demonstrates asynchronous 
> > requests.
> >
> > Interesting stuff.
> >
> > Carl
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On 
> > Behalf
> > Of Mike Parks
> > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:58 PM
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> > Damn Spammers... Sreedhar Reddy <kikkuri_sreedharreddy at yahoo.com>
> >
> > So what's up? Did to group die? Or just nothing new?
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> > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:23:32 -0500
> > From: "Dave J. Hala Jr." <dave at 58ghz.net>
> > Subject: RE: [ciapug] Re:
> > To: carl-olsen at mchsi.com, PHP List <ciapug at cialug.org>
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> > I've got a new version of studio 8 I've been playing with...It just got
> > here today. After two years of asking "what html editor would make me
> > more productive", I decided that it wasn't the fact that I was wring my
> > html hand by hand... It was the design/layout process that was slowing
> > me down and  *that* was the hold up...
> >
> > So, hopefully the new process will be: Do the design and layout in
> > Fireworks then move it into dreamweaver. Get the html all setup so its
> > pretty. Add in my php and *poof* its done and its pretty....
> >
> > If it doesn't speed up the process, its quite a chunk of change down the
> > drain...
> >
> > We'll see...
> >
> > :) Dave
> >
> > On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 13:24, Carl Olsen wrote:
> >> Only the walking dead are here today. ;-)
> >>
> >> I'm busy reading about AJAX Patterns and Best Practices (Apress.com), but
> >> it's mostly JavaScript running with ASP.NET, Mono, and JSP (threading and
> >> caching, so far).  I tried the threading example with PHP and it worked.
> >>
> >> <?php
> >>     sleep(10);
> >>     print("something");
> >> ?>
> >>
> >> You send an AJAX request to load this PHP page which hangs for ten 
> >> seconds.
> >> While it is hanging, you send a second AJAX request to another page 
> >> (usually
> >> an XML file) and it pulls in the content from the second page while the
> >> first one is still hanging.  The example demonstrates asynchronous 
> >> requests.
> >>
> >> Interesting stuff.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On 
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Mike Parks
> >> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:58 PM
> >> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >> Subject: [ciapug] Re:
> >>
> >> Damn Spammers... Sreedhar Reddy <kikkuri_sreedharreddy at yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> So what's up? Did to group die? Or just nothing new?
> >> lman/listinfo/ciapug
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:19:57 -0500
> > From: "Carl Olsen" <carl-olsen at mchsi.com>
> > Subject: RE: [ciapug] Re:
> > To: "'Dave J. Hala Jr.'" <dave at 58ghz.net>, "'PHP List'"
> > <ciapug at cialug.org>
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> > I use Dreamweaver a lot.  I use Photoshop instead of Fireworks, but I'm 
> > sure
> > Fireworks is fine for web site graphics.  I've seen people do design work 
> > in
> > Fireworks and it looks great.  I use Studio 8 and Adobe CS2 both at home 
> > and
> > at work.  Dreamweaver has fairly good support for PHP, at least as good as
> > any other programming language (ASP, PHP, JSP, and ASP.NET are the ones 
> > I'm
> > familiar with).  I write most of my PHP using Dreamweaver.  I think you 
> > made
> > the right choice.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave J. Hala Jr. [mailto:dave at 58ghz.net]
> > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:24 PM
> > To: carl-olsen at mchsi.com; PHP List
> > Subject: RE: [ciapug] Re:
> >
> > I've got a new version of studio 8 I've been playing with...It just got
> > here today. After two years of asking "what html editor would make me
> > more productive", I decided that it wasn't the fact that I was wring my
> > html hand by hand... It was the design/layout process that was slowing
> > me down and  *that* was the hold up...
> >
> > So, hopefully the new process will be: Do the design and layout in
> > Fireworks then move it into dreamweaver. Get the html all setup so its
> > pretty. Add in my php and *poof* its done and its pretty....
> >
> > If it doesn't speed up the process, its quite a chunk of change down the
> > drain...
> >
> > We'll see...
> >
> > :) Dave
> >
> > On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 13:24, Carl Olsen wrote:
> >> Only the walking dead are here today. ;-)
> >>
> >> I'm busy reading about AJAX Patterns and Best Practices (Apress.com), but
> >> it's mostly JavaScript running with ASP.NET, Mono, and JSP (threading and
> >> caching, so far).  I tried the threading example with PHP and it worked.
> >>
> >> <?php
> >>     sleep(10);
> >>     print("something");
> >> ?>
> >>
> >> You send an AJAX request to load this PHP page which hangs for ten
> > seconds.
> >> While it is hanging, you send a second AJAX request to another page
> > (usually
> >> an XML file) and it pulls in the content from the second page while the
> >> first one is still hanging.  The example demonstrates asynchronous
> > requests.
> >>
> >> Interesting stuff.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On
> > Behalf
> >> Of Mike Parks
> >> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:58 PM
> >> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >> Subject: [ciapug] Re:
> >>
> >> Damn Spammers... Sreedhar Reddy <kikkuri_sreedharreddy at yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> So what's up? Did to group die? Or just nothing new?
> >> lman/listinfo/ciapug
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