[ciapug] Re: design/layout process

Sat Apr 29 14:50:20 CDT 2006

Design, not exactly my strong suit. Thats were the designers come in. lol.
But for my personal sites, I use Photoshop and Dreamweaver to get the design 
layed out. Then msake it a class file. And build the PHP in Zend Studio, or 
Eclipse.

;-)
Mike

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> From: "Carl Olsen" <carl-olsen at mchsi.com>
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> Only the walking dead are here today. ;-)
>
> I'm busy reading about AJAX Patterns and Best Practices (Apress.com), but
> it's mostly JavaScript running with ASP.NET, Mono, and JSP (threading and
> caching, so far).  I tried the threading example with PHP and it worked.
>
> <?php
>    sleep(10);
>    print("something");
> ?>
>
> You send an AJAX request to load this PHP page which hangs for ten 
> seconds.
> While it is hanging, you send a second AJAX request to another page 
> (usually
> an XML file) and it pulls in the content from the second page while the
> first one is still hanging.  The example demonstrates asynchronous 
> requests.
>
> Interesting stuff.
>
> Carl
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf
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> Damn Spammers... Sreedhar Reddy <kikkuri_sreedharreddy at yahoo.com>
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> So what's up? Did to group die? Or just nothing new?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:23:32 -0500
> From: "Dave J. Hala Jr." <dave at 58ghz.net>
> Subject: RE: [ciapug] Re:
> To: carl-olsen at mchsi.com, PHP List <ciapug at cialug.org>
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> I've got a new version of studio 8 I've been playing with...It just got
> here today. After two years of asking "what html editor would make me
> more productive", I decided that it wasn't the fact that I was wring my
> html hand by hand... It was the design/layout process that was slowing
> me down and  *that* was the hold up...
>
> So, hopefully the new process will be: Do the design and layout in
> Fireworks then move it into dreamweaver. Get the html all setup so its
> pretty. Add in my php and *poof* its done and its pretty....
>
> If it doesn't speed up the process, its quite a chunk of change down the
> drain...
>
> We'll see...
>
> :) Dave
>
> On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 13:24, Carl Olsen wrote:
>> Only the walking dead are here today. ;-)
>>
>> I'm busy reading about AJAX Patterns and Best Practices (Apress.com), but
>> it's mostly JavaScript running with ASP.NET, Mono, and JSP (threading and
>> caching, so far).  I tried the threading example with PHP and it worked.
>>
>> <?php
>>     sleep(10);
>>     print("something");
>> ?>
>>
>> You send an AJAX request to load this PHP page which hangs for ten 
>> seconds.
>> While it is hanging, you send a second AJAX request to another page 
>> (usually
>> an XML file) and it pulls in the content from the second page while the
>> first one is still hanging.  The example demonstrates asynchronous 
>> requests.
>>
>> Interesting stuff.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Mike Parks
>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:58 PM
>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
>> Subject: [ciapug] Re:
>>
>> Damn Spammers... Sreedhar Reddy <kikkuri_sreedharreddy at yahoo.com>
>>
>> So what's up? Did to group die? Or just nothing new?
>> lman/listinfo/ciapug
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> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:19:57 -0500
> From: "Carl Olsen" <carl-olsen at mchsi.com>
> Subject: RE: [ciapug] Re:
> To: "'Dave J. Hala Jr.'" <dave at 58ghz.net>, "'PHP List'"
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> I use Dreamweaver a lot.  I use Photoshop instead of Fireworks, but I'm 
> sure
> Fireworks is fine for web site graphics.  I've seen people do design work 
> in
> Fireworks and it looks great.  I use Studio 8 and Adobe CS2 both at home 
> and
> at work.  Dreamweaver has fairly good support for PHP, at least as good as
> any other programming language (ASP, PHP, JSP, and ASP.NET are the ones 
> I'm
> familiar with).  I write most of my PHP using Dreamweaver.  I think you 
> made
> the right choice.
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave J. Hala Jr. [mailto:dave at 58ghz.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:24 PM
> To: carl-olsen at mchsi.com; PHP List
> Subject: RE: [ciapug] Re:
>
> I've got a new version of studio 8 I've been playing with...It just got
> here today. After two years of asking "what html editor would make me
> more productive", I decided that it wasn't the fact that I was wring my
> html hand by hand... It was the design/layout process that was slowing
> me down and  *that* was the hold up...
>
> So, hopefully the new process will be: Do the design and layout in
> Fireworks then move it into dreamweaver. Get the html all setup so its
> pretty. Add in my php and *poof* its done and its pretty....
>
> If it doesn't speed up the process, its quite a chunk of change down the
> drain...
>
> We'll see...
>
> :) Dave
>
> On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 13:24, Carl Olsen wrote:
>> Only the walking dead are here today. ;-)
>>
>> I'm busy reading about AJAX Patterns and Best Practices (Apress.com), but
>> it's mostly JavaScript running with ASP.NET, Mono, and JSP (threading and
>> caching, so far).  I tried the threading example with PHP and it worked.
>>
>> <?php
>>     sleep(10);
>>     print("something");
>> ?>
>>
>> You send an AJAX request to load this PHP page which hangs for ten
> seconds.
>> While it is hanging, you send a second AJAX request to another page
> (usually
>> an XML file) and it pulls in the content from the second page while the
>> first one is still hanging.  The example demonstrates asynchronous
> requests.
>>
>> Interesting stuff.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Mike Parks
>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:58 PM
>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
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>>
>> Damn Spammers... Sreedhar Reddy <kikkuri_sreedharreddy at yahoo.com>
>>
>> So what's up? Did to group die? Or just nothing new?
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