[ciapug] Re: Re: Re: PHP editors revisited again...

Thu Sep 8 14:25:14 CDT 2005

The Zend Studio Standard does not have Remote Debugger, Remote Profiler, 
Database Connectivity & Integration for: IBM DB2/Cloudscape/ Derby, MySQL, 
Oracle Microsoft SQL Server, SQLite, and PostgreSQL, Set of SQL tools: SQL 
Query Editor, SQL Explorer, and more. PHPDocumentor, FTP (includes NEW 
Advanced integration), or CVS Integration for Team Development that the Pro 
version does have.

This I don't really need (Database Connectivity & Integration for: IBM 
DB2/Cloudscape/ Derby, MySQL, Oracle Microsoft SQL Server, SQLite, and 
PostgreSQL, Set of SQL tools: SQL Query Editor, SQL Explorer, and more) But 
the rest is important. The CVS we are implementing here for the whole 
credit card security implementation standard that the CC companies has 
combined together to come up with the standard as a catch 22 to pass 
responsibility of credit card fraud onto us the website hosts.

CVS as a whole has become my little pet project for several reasons.
1. the CVS repository keeps a record of all code changes and who made the 
changes (by login)
2. Backup of all files, with revisions. Any file in the repository can be 
restored if it had been removed from the site.
3. Security, if for some reason we would be audited for a credit card 
fraud. The code changes can be tracked.

For anyone who has not looked at the CC security standard, If a CC theft or 
fraud were to happen. The affected CC company can send an audit team to 
look for anything that can point the finger at the host, so they do not 
need to assume responsibilty.

UltraEdit Studio from looking at it today does several different languages, 
it has ftp, and CVS functionality, class browsing, language intelligence.

Downside (though like most) no visual editor. It just nice to switch to 
either view to see what it looks like instead of edit, save, upload and view.

Mike

At 12:33 PM 9/8/05, you wrote:
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:31:44 -0500
>From: David Champion <dave at visionary.com>
>Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: PHP editors revisited again...
>To: ciapug at cialug.org
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>I haven't used  UltraEdit Studio yet (will have to check it out), but
>have been using UltraEdit (version 10 now...) for years, and I really
>like it. The version I have doesn't do the context popup stuff, but it
>does do syntax highlighting for a ton of languages.
>
>Just about every time I think "I wish I had an editor that would do
><foo>", I poke around in UE and it's already there.
>
>One feature it doesn't have is the code-collapsing like Quanta does.
>
>-dc
>
>Mike Parks wrote:
> > Hey All,
> > My trial of Zend Studio has expired. I had a few email conversations
> > with sales at Zend, which got them to offer the Pro version at $50 off
> > or $100 off of the Team pack. But this is still a bit much for me. I
> > liked the way it would popup standard functions and classes along with
> > my own written functions and classes.
> >
> > Eclipse really didn't do it for me.
> >
> > I am looking now at UltraEdit Studio '05 Has anyone else tried it? What
> > do you think of it? Looks like it will work for several different
> > languages. And $70 is a lot easier to come up with than Zend's $299.
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:33:05 -0500
>From: Ron Mutchler <qsecofr at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: PHP editors revisited again...
>To: ciapug at cialug.org
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>Mark,
>
>You can get Zend Studio for $99 (
>http://www.zend.com/store/products/zend-studio/pricing.php ) or you can get
>Pro as a student for $99. Another alternative would be to look at Eclipse,
>an open source IDE ( www.eclipse.org <http://www.eclipse.org> )
>
>Ron
>
>On 9/8/05, Mike Parks <mparks at captainjack.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey All,
> > My trial of Zend Studio has expired. I had a few email conversations with
> > sales at Zend, which got them to offer the Pro version at $50 off or $100
> > off of the Team pack. But this is still a bit much for me. I liked the way
> > it would popup standard functions and classes along with my own written
> > functions and classes.
> >
> > Eclipse really didn't do it for me.
> >
> > I am looking now at UltraEdit Studio '05 Has anyone else tried it? What do
> > you think of it? Looks like it will work for several different languages.
> > And $70 is a lot easier to come up with than Zend's $299.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > At 12:00 PM 9/7/05, you wrote:
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> > > 1. Re: September's meeting ... (Chris Hettinger)
> > >
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> > >Message: 1
> > >Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:31:26 -0500
> > >From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [ciapug] September's meeting ...
> > >To: ciapug at cialug.org
> > >Message-ID: <431F15DE.5050102 at raccoon.com>
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> > >
> > >You're forgiven for the long post ;)
> > >
> > >That's really good to hear, so far it sounds like your experience is
> > >very similar to mine and the others preparing with me.
> > >
> > >Myself and 4 co-workers are doing this together and we're meeting once a
> > >week to review together the practice tests after we each have taken
> > >them. That discussion has helped already. We too have gotten snagged by
> > >that "choose 2" part, heh.
> > >
> > >My concern/curiousity was comprehensive the actual test was in
> > >comparison to the study guide and practice tests because so far we've
> > >seen a large gap between those two. The study guide is so abbreviated
> > >compared to the questions asked in the practice tests book.
> > >
> > >Is the actual test broken down like the practice test book?
> > >Approximately 12 chapters/sections each with around 15 questions? Or is
> > >it one long series of questions?
> > >
> > >Thanks so much,
> > >
> > >-ch
> > >
> > >
> > >Ron Mutchler wrote:
> > >
> > > > I started developing PHP back in December 2002. Currently I maintain a
> > > > couple of websites written in PHP and particpate in beta testing for a
> > > > company that creates forum software.
> > > >
> > > > When it came to preparing for the test, I knew that experience with
> > the
> > > > language would help. Last month when Zend offered the $125 exam
> > voucher
> > > > (which they are still offering for those interested), I decided it was
> > > > time to take the exam. I ordered the Practice Test book along with the
> > > > voucher. My method consisted of going through the book chapter by
> > > > chapter. I made some answer sheets where I could score myself, and
> > > > scribble a note next to the answer telling myself what I truely
> > missed.
> > > > Some of them were from not reading the "Choose 2" part. After I went
> > > > through the entire book chapter by chapter, I set it aside for a
> > couple
> > > > of weeks due to travel. I will admit that after going through the book
> > > > the first time, I was actually concerned that I would not be able to
> > > > pass. I did spend a bit of time looking at php.net <http://php.net> <
> > http://php.net> at
> > > > a few of the things I was deficient in. About a week before the test,
> > I
> > > > did take a few more chapters worth of the exam.
> > > >
> > > > The day of the exam, I was nervous. Before the exam started on the
> > > > computer, there was a survey about your PHP experience. Afterward, the
> > > > test began. The nice thing about the test was that for the Choose 2
> > > > questions, it would give you checkboxes to make it obvious. The
> > > > questions felt like some of the questions in the Practice Test book.
> > > > Overall, I found the exam to be easier than the questions in the book.
> > > > I actually finished my exam in about 40 minutes, but I do take exams
> > > > fast (I aced my CS3 midterm in about 30 minutes, and passed my IBM
> > Cert
> > > > in about 50).
> > > >
> > > > Sorry about the long post :)
> > > >
> > > > Ron
> > > >
> > > > On 9/7/05, *Chris Hettinger* <cjh at raccoon.com 
> <mailto:cjh at raccoon.com> >>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi and welcome to the list Ron,
> > > >
> > > > There is no formal agenda for tonights meeting.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to know a little about your experience takig the ZCE
> > test.
> > > > Did you use the Zend study guide and practice tests books in your
> > > > preparation? If so, how did you feel about their format, did they
> > > > compare to the actual test's format?
> > > >
> > > > -ch
> > > >
> > > > Ron Mutchler wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new to the list after seeing the entry for the group at PHP.net.
> > > > > I'm more curious what the agenda is going be for the meeting,
> > > besides
> > > > > ZCE preparation. I'm currently a ZCE, one of only 2 in
> > > Iowa. If you
> > > > > could provide more of an agenda, I will see if my schedule allows
> > > > me to
> > > > > attend tomorrow night. I'm currently juggling 2 classes toward
> > > > my BA,
> > > > > in addition to my work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron Mutchler
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/6/05, *Carl Olsen* < carl-olsen at mchsi.com
> > > > <mailto:carl-olsen at mchsi.com>
> > > > > <mailto:carl-olsen at mchsi.com <mailto:carl-olsen at mchsi.com>>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope you get more than three or four people showing up,
> > > > because I
> > > > > know at
> > > > > least one person from the Iowa .NET User Group who would be
> > > > there if you
> > > > > weren't having the meeting at the exact same time.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org
> > > > <mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org>
> > > <mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org> <mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org>>
> > > > > [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org
> > > > <mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org>
> > > > > <mailto:
> > > ciapug-bounces at cialug.org> <mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org>>] On
> > Behalf
> > > > > Of Chris Hettinger
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 3:56 PM
> > > > > To: ciapug at cialug.org <mailto:ciapug at cialug.org>
> > > > <mailto:ciapug at cialug.org <mailto:ciapug at cialug.org>>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ciapug] September's meeting ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Quick reminder; the Sept. CIAPUG meeting is tomorrow night at
> > > > 6:00 PM at
> > > > > the Border's Book store on University Ave, West Des Moines.
> > > > You will
> > > > > find it in the shopping center next to Sportsman's and World
> > > > Market.
> > > > >
> > > > > See you there.
> > > > > -ch
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris Hettinger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > September's meeting is coming up on Wednesday the 7th and for
> > > > > this one I
> > > > > > suggest we meet at the Borders bookstore on University
> > > > Ave, West Des
> > > > > > Moines at 6 PM.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why? ... Why not?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm hoping the earlier start time will allow a few more
> > > > people to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > it, and the book store offers a more comfortable environment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will bring my books for the Zend Certified Engineer (PHP)
> > > > > > certification if anyone is interested in reviewing them.
> > > > Myself and
> > > > > > several co-worker have recently begun working together
> > > > preparing
> > > > > for the
> > > > > > test.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope to see some new faces!
> > > > > > September 7th!
> > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > >
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