[ciapug] Re: Re: Follow-up

Carl Olsen carl-olsen at mchsi.com
Fri Oct 21 17:58:49 CDT 2005


So far, "PHP5 Objects, Patterns, and Practices" is only talking about how
PEAR is put together to illustrate examples of object oriented programming.
I would imagine something like PEAR is not going to be re-coded immediately
to take advantage of PHP5's new features.  It's probably based on PHP4,
which is quite different in the way it deals with OOP.  I don't mind using
tools that other programmers have built, but I'd first like to know how to
build them myself.

Carl

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Subject: [ciapug] Re: Re: Follow-up

Scott,
I read that book too, there was so many things about that book that I didn't
like. The naming convention and folder structure of the directories was my
main turn off. And all of the script errors. They have an errata on their
website for it, but like I said I didn't like the book. If I want to get
into PEAR more I might look at it again though, since that was its main
focus.

Another one I didn't like was Secure PHP Development by Mohammad Kabir.
Again PEAR based. I tried reading it 4 or 5 times, always stopped at chapter
4.

I'm finding it hard to find PHP books that are strictly OOP (without PEAR).
All of the books I have looked at, eventually push the whole structure to
PEAR. I'm not dissin` PEAR, but I not ready to use it in my programming.

I know Carl, seems to like the aPress books, I might have to look at them
more too.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Mike Parks

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> I'm new to the list and to PHP. I was wondering if any of you had any
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> You looking for formal training or initiation by fire?  I have a few 
> ways to get training via the latter if that interests you.  That's how I 
> learned...never been a big fan of class-room training.  But that's just 
> me.  What's you programming background, btw?
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> --Tony
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> > I'm new to the list and to PHP. I was wondering if any of you had any
> > suggestions where I can go for some PHP training? I've looked all over
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anything
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