[ciapug] Web Professionalism

[Carl Olsen]

You cannot concatenate unless you have quotes around a string or a dollar
sign in front of a variable, so I'd prefer to use the JavaScript syntax.

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
Of David Champion
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:46 AM
To: ciapug at cialug.org
Subject: Re: [ciapug] Web Professionalism

IMHO using the "." seperator in PHP would be a poor choice at this 
point, due to its usage as a string concatenator, and coders that tend 
to not like to use spaces. i.e :

$x = $y.$z;

Other languages I've done OO in (like VFP, Python, Javascript...) that 
use the "." it works well in.

I've never been a fan of the Perl "::" seperator, and ":::" just looks 
ridiculous.

The "->" may be slightly harder to type, but it is visibly easy to 
recognize, and I use it so often now it's just automatic.

-dc

Tony Bibbs wrote:
> To be clear the agrument on syntax I was eluding to was for the import.
> 
> Thus
> 
> import net.geeklog.mvcnphp.views;
> 
> versus
> 
> import net:::geeklog:::mvcnphp:::views;
> 
> You would do the import only once at the top of the file where you need 
> the package and then start using the classes you've imported.  Imports 
> are similar to include's except you are able to import an entire library 
> in one call versus a single file.  Also, using this sort of a thing 
> you'll be able to make use of, say, a class called User that is used in 
> two different classes without getting a ton of errors.
> 
> -Tony
> 
> Carl Olsen wrote:
> 
>> I've only looked at PEAR briefly.
>>
>> I see what you mean about the search and replace, so that makes me feel
>> better about it.
>>
>> Right now, I have to type a "-" and a ">" to do a method call or fetch a
>> property.  I'd much rather type a "." since that's a key I'm much more
>> familiar with.  I can usually hit the "." key without looking at the
>> keyboard.  "Three colons" doesn't sound like much fun to me.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tony Bibbs [mailto:tony at tonybibbs.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 
>> 29, 2005 8:56 AM
>> To: carl-olsen at mchsi.com; ciapug at cialug.org
>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Web Professionalism
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl Olsen wrote:
>>
>>> I'm hoping they get that fixed before too much code gets written that 
>>> way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have you seen PEAR?  That's all they use (for better or worse).  The 
>> PHP DEV's seem to not look at namespaces as a big issue.  In fact, I 
>> believe the phrase that rings in my head is "syntactic sugar".
>>
>> Anyway, the good thing about doing it this way is when/if namespace 
>> support is implemented, you will only have to do search/replace.
>>
>> FWIW, there's been a lot of recent discussion about this on php-dev. 
>> Sounds like they maybe getting more serious about it because they are 
>> arguing about what to use as the separator (e.g. '.' versus ':::', etc).
>>
>> --Tony
>>
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