[ciapug] PHP 5.1 Change Log

[Tony Bibbs]

Well, I don't have any metrics to give but your essentially replacing 
all the ADODB PHP with C code.  I don't use ADODB so I wasn't even aware 
of the C module.  I personally use a mix of PEAR::DB (PHP4) and Creole 
(PHP5) and would like to see as much PHP code replaced with C code as 
possible.

The database meta-data is a requirement I have for using Propel, our 
Object Relational Mapper (ORM).  It's used to reverse engineer a 
database so the structures (tables, contraints, sequences, etc) can be 
ported to another RDBMS.  I've mentioned Propel a bunch on this list and 
one of these days I may live up to doing a presentation of it at a 
meeting.  Anyway, Propel uses Creole to get that meta-data and with the 
introduction of PDO the Propel developers are looking to move as much 
functionality over to PDO and then only use Creole for the meta-data 
look-ups.  To be clear, you don't need this meta-data look-up unless you 
want are working on a project that wants to support multiple RDBMS's 
(which requires the reverse engineering capabilities).

Using an ORM for persisting objects to a database seemlessly is a great 
topic...let me know when the next meeting with an open slot is and I'll 
whip something up.

--Tony

David Champion wrote:
> I didn't know there was a speed problem with ADODB. The PHP native 
> version is pretty fast. The external c executable version is even faster.
> 
> I would be interested in hearing about a comparison of ADODB and PDO for 
> perfromance and if you had to make any concessions in your code to 
> handle the "missing" elements you mentioned.
> 
> -dc
> 
> Chris Van Cleve wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, it's the speed benefit I am looking to test out. ADOdb still 
>> offers some features I can't live without and PDO has no comparable 
>> replacements.
>>
>> Chris VC
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Tony Bibbs wrote:
>>
>>> Only peeve about PDO is it didn't include any facility for 
>>> reverse-engineering databases (i.e. there is no elegant way to pull 
>>> meta-data out).
>>>
>>> On the flip side, it should provide a much needed speed improvement 
>>> over PEAR::DB/ADOdb, etc.
>>>
>>> --Tony
>>>
>>> Chris Van Cleve wrote:
>>>
>>>> PHP 5.1 is just around the corner, and I found a site that lists the 
>>>> relevant changes, additions, removals, etc.
>>>> http://blog.iworks.at/?/archives/26-PHP-5.1-around-the-corner.html
>>>> I have been coding in PHP 5 for several months and have not had any 
>>>> problems thus far. I'm looking forward to some of these changes, 
>>>> particularly regarding PDO. I've been playing with rewriting pages 
>>>> relying on ADOdb to using PDO. It's been... interesting...
>>>> Chris VC
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