[ciapug] Re: PHP group and SHOTGUN Meeting Date!

[Mike Parks]

Well, I withdraw last nights email, that I would not be able to attend the 
Tuesday meet. there will be 3 of us showing.

My PHP programming style is based from Eric Rosebrock of PHPFreaks.com and 
his book Creating Interactive Websites with PHP and Web Services. I have 
read several others but always seem to loose interest by Chapter 4. Erics' 
book I was able to follow completely through it, and fully understood where 
he was leading me in the book.

PEAR and SMARTY code, though more OOP directed, I find myself getting lost 
in the code. I can read it and mostly understand its functionality, but most 
of the time I get lost in the translation of either.

Mike


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>   1. Re: PHP group and SHOTGUN Meeting Date! (Matt Patterson)
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> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:53:45 -0000 (GMT)
> From: "Matt Patterson" <matt@usrlocal.com>
> To: ciapug@cialug.org
> Subject: Re: [ciapug] PHP group and SHOTGUN Meeting Date!
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> If you are looking for a nice book that has a lot of examples of how to do
> things in a complaint fashion, Dan Cederholm (of simplebits.com) has one 
> titled
> "Web Standards Solutions"  It shows examples of how things have been done 
> in the
> past and new (better) ways of doing them in the future.
>
> If you go to the simplebits.com site, there is a link to purchase the 
> book.
>
> -Matt Patterson
> matt@usrlocal.com
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>
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 6:52:57 -0600 (CST), Chris Van Cleve
> <vanish@dreamscapevisionery.com> wrote:
>> Well, you should still use tables to present tabular data. ;)
>>
>> Some excellent resources are (sorry for the delay. I pulled these form
>> my bookmarks since my memory of URLs lately is obviously flawed):
>>
>> http://www.csszengarden.com/
>> http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/skidoo_too/index.html
>> http://www.positioniseverything.net/
>> http://www.alistapart.com
>> http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
>> http://www.moronicbajebus.com/playground/cssplay/
>> http://www.dezwozhere.com/links.html
>> http://www.simplebits.com/
>> http://www.stopdesign.com/
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2005, at 5:56 PM, Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 17:50, Chris Van Cleve wrote:
>> >> Scott,
>> >>
>> >> Chris and I have a history of making fun about web development. Don't
>> >> read much into it. Hence all the wink-emoticons.
>> >>
>> >> Web standards actually save time over table designs once you learn how
>> >> to use them, and I have lots of deadlines. Since converting to XHTML
>> >
>> > No more tables? I'm all for this. Where can I find more information?
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Jan 27, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Scott Phillips wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Jeeze.  A guy throws together a site for free and this is the thanks
>> >>> he gets?
>> >>>
>> >>> Standards are great if you have no deadlines nothing better to do
>> >>> than
>> >>> spend hours and hours trying to figure out which hack you need to
>> >>> include to get your other hacks to work so that you site will render
>> >>> in any sort of acceptable fashion.  My pages will stay "transitional"
>> >>> until this bleeding edge gets a tourniquet.  Tables suck, but not as
>> >>> bad as getting pure CSS layouts to work right... at least for now.
>> >>> Talk to me when Firefox has a 90% share.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> At 05:06 PM 1/26/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>> >>>> The new site isn't supposed to look that bad is it? Probably because
>> >>>> I'm on a Mac. The fonts are all wonky.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> /me slaps Chris for using a table-based layout in this age of web
>> >>>> standards solutions and accessibility. ;)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Overall the site is nice though, Chris. I can't make the meeting.
>> >>>> Getting away from work is next to impossible, sorry. I'd only be
>> >>>> available for evening or weekend meetings.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Chris Van Cleve
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Jan 26, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Chris Hettinger wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Welcome Scott! It's great to know that more people are learning of
>> >>>>> the group and want to participate. I feel that this group is a
>> >>>>> needed resource locally.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'd say I am using PHP on a large scale. I work for ENCOMPASS
>> >>>>> Health
>> >>>>> Management Systems in West Des Moines. Began here 1.5 years ago and
>> >>>>> am soley responsible for the companies Internet site.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I've introduced two Mandrake Linux Web Servers into this MS shop.
>> >>>>> Have moved their site to Apache and in the last year have launched
>> >>>>> 4
>> >>>>> Internet web applications and several internal web based apps. The
>> >>>>> Internet applications are used by hopsitals, and doctor's offices
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> submit patient, medical services, and clinical information for
>> >>>>> review and authorization of care. The applications use both MySQL
>> >>>>> and MSSQL databases.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In addition I provide freelance development services in which I use
>> >>>>> MySQL/PHP exclusively.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ---- SITE REDEVELOPMENT ----
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In addition to the topic about the group. About a year ago I make a
>> >>>>> attempt to reorganize our group however I didn't acheive my goal.
>> >>>>> Part of the work I did was to concept and build a new site though
>> >>>>> it
>> >>>>> never made it to production.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That's changed! I've recently produced and uploaded the site!
>> >>>>> http://www.cialug.org/ciapug/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You will soon be able to visit the site at ciapug.org once again,
>> >>>>> we
>> >>>>> need to reregister the domain.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ---- SHOTGUN MEETING ----
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Now to get this rolling lets meet ! I'm calling a shotgun meeting
>> >>>>> for:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tues. February 1st
>> >>>>> 11:45 AM
>> >>>>> Jason's Deli  (Next door to Hu Hot on University Ave West Des
>> >>>>> Moines)
>> >>>>> Open topic discussion
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hope all that are intereted can make it, if you are unable to make
>> >>>>> this meeting at the time selected, don't worry we WILL do this
>> >>>>> again.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Please, I encourage you to introduce yourself via the mailing list.
>> >>>>> Please include in your introduction a bit about where, why, and how
>> >>>>> you use PHP, as well as what you'd like to see the group provide
>> >>>>> you.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Chris
>> >>>>> -CIAPUG webmaster
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>> >>>>>>  I just there are just tons of .net developers out there. Other
>> >>>>>> than me
>> >>>>>> and Tim is anyone else out there doing anything on a medium to
>> >>>>>> large
>> >>>>>> scale?
>> >>>>>> On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 16:17, Scott Phillips wrote:
>> >>>>>>> I just heard about this group this morning and would support any
>> >>>>>>> sort of revitalization.  Sometimes I feel like I'm using PHP in a
>> >>>>>>> vacuum with all the big corps around here using their fancy-pants
>> >>>>>>> Java or .NET developers.  (I even think ColdFusion has a bigger
>> >>>>>>> share around here than PHP!)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In any case, hello, and I hope to meet some of you in the near
>> >>>>>>> future.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Scott Phillips
>> >>>>>>> Web Developer
>> >>>>>>> Cowles Library, Drake University
>> >>>>>>> (515) 271-2975
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>> >>> Scott Phillips
>> >>> Web Developer
>> >>> Cowles Library, Drake University
>> >>> (515) 271-2975
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