[ciapug] PHP group and SHOTGUN Meeting Date!

Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:42:59 -0600

On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 06:51:11PM -0600, Chris Van Cleve wrote:
> Well, you should still use tables to present tabular data. ;)
> 
> Some excellent resources are (sorry for the delay. I pulled these form 
> my bookmarks since my memory of URLs lately is obviously flawed):
> 
> http://www.csszengarden.com/
> http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/skidoo_too/index.html
> http://www.positioniseverything.net/
> http://www.alistapart.com
> http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
> http://www.moronicbajebus.com/playground/cssplay/
> http://www.dezwozhere.com/links.html
> http://www.simplebits.com/
> http://www.stopdesign.com/
> 

don't forget Zeldman:
http://www.zeldman.com/dwws/

-barry


> On Jan 27, 2005, at 5:56 PM, Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 17:50, Chris Van Cleve wrote:
> >>Scott,
> >>
> >>Chris and I have a history of making fun about web development. Don't
> >>read much into it. Hence all the wink-emoticons.
> >>
> >>Web standards actually save time over table designs once you learn how
> >>to use them, and I have lots of deadlines. Since converting to XHTML
> >
> >No more tables? I'm all for this. Where can I find more information?
> >
> >
> >>On Jan 27, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Scott Phillips wrote:
> >>
> >>>Jeeze.  A guy throws together a site for free and this is the thanks
> >>>he gets?
> >>>
> >>>Standards are great if you have no deadlines nothing better to do 
> >>>than
> >>>spend hours and hours trying to figure out which hack you need to
> >>>include to get your other hacks to work so that you site will render
> >>>in any sort of acceptable fashion.  My pages will stay "transitional"
> >>>until this bleeding edge gets a tourniquet.  Tables suck, but not as
> >>>bad as getting pure CSS layouts to work right... at least for now.
> >>>Talk to me when Firefox has a 90% share.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>At 05:06 PM 1/26/2005 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>>The new site isn't supposed to look that bad is it? Probably because
> >>>>I'm on a Mac. The fonts are all wonky.
> >>>>
> >>>>/me slaps Chris for using a table-based layout in this age of web
> >>>>standards solutions and accessibility. ;)
> >>>>
> >>>>Overall the site is nice though, Chris. I can't make the meeting.
> >>>>Getting away from work is next to impossible, sorry. I'd only be
> >>>>available for evening or weekend meetings.
> >>>>
> >>>>Chris Van Cleve
> >>>>
> >>>>On Jan 26, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Chris Hettinger wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Welcome Scott! It's great to know that more people are learning of
> >>>>>the group and want to participate. I feel that this group is a
> >>>>>needed resource locally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'd say I am using PHP on a large scale. I work for ENCOMPASS 
> >>>>>Health
> >>>>>Management Systems in West Des Moines. Began here 1.5 years ago and
> >>>>>am soley responsible for the companies Internet site.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I've introduced two Mandrake Linux Web Servers into this MS shop.
> >>>>>Have moved their site to Apache and in the last year have launched 
> >>>>>4
> >>>>>Internet web applications and several internal web based apps. The
> >>>>>Internet applications are used by hopsitals, and doctor's offices 
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>submit patient, medical services, and clinical information for
> >>>>>review and authorization of care. The applications use both MySQL
> >>>>>and MSSQL databases.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In addition I provide freelance development services in which I use
> >>>>>MySQL/PHP exclusively.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>---- SITE REDEVELOPMENT ----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In addition to the topic about the group. About a year ago I make a
> >>>>>attempt to reorganize our group however I didn't acheive my goal.
> >>>>>Part of the work I did was to concept and build a new site though 
> >>>>>it
> >>>>>never made it to production.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>That's changed! I've recently produced and uploaded the site!
> >>>>>http://www.cialug.org/ciapug/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You will soon be able to visit the site at ciapug.org once again, 
> >>>>>we
> >>>>>need to reregister the domain.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>---- SHOTGUN MEETING ----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Now to get this rolling lets meet ! I'm calling a shotgun meeting
> >>>>>for:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Tues. February 1st
> >>>>>11:45 AM
> >>>>>Jason's Deli  (Next door to Hu Hot on University Ave West Des 
> >>>>>Moines)
> >>>>>Open topic discussion
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hope all that are intereted can make it, if you are unable to make
> >>>>>this meeting at the time selected, don't worry we WILL do this
> >>>>>again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Please, I encourage you to introduce yourself via the mailing list.
> >>>>>Please include in your introduction a bit about where, why, and how
> >>>>>you use PHP, as well as what you'd like to see the group provide
> >>>>>you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-Chris
> >>>>>-CIAPUG webmaster
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
> >>>>>> I just there are just tons of .net developers out there. Other
> >>>>>>than me
> >>>>>>and Tim is anyone else out there doing anything on a medium to 
> >>>>>>large
> >>>>>>scale?
> >>>>>>On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 16:17, Scott Phillips wrote:
> >>>>>>>I just heard about this group this morning and would support any
> >>>>>>>sort of revitalization.  Sometimes I feel like I'm using PHP in a
> >>>>>>>vacuum with all the big corps around here using their fancy-pants
> >>>>>>>Java or .NET developers.  (I even think ColdFusion has a bigger
> >>>>>>>share around here than PHP!)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>In any case, hello, and I hope to meet some of you in the near
> >>>>>>>future.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Scott Phillips
> >>>>>>>Web Developer
> >>>>>>>Cowles Library, Drake University
> >>>>>>>(515) 271-2975
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Scott Phillips
> >>>Web Developer
> >>>Cowles Library, Drake University
> >>>(515) 271-2975
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