[ciapug] PHP group and SHOTGUN Meeting Date!

[Matt Patterson]

If you are looking for a nice book that has a lot of examples of how to do
things in a complaint fashion, Dan Cederholm (of simplebits.com) has one titled
"Web Standards Solutions"  It shows examples of how things have been done in the
past and new (better) ways of doing them in the future.

If you go to the simplebits.com site, there is a link to purchase the book.

-Matt Patterson
matt@usrlocal.com



On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 6:52:57 -0600 (CST), Chris Van Cleve
<vanish@dreamscapevisionery.com> wrote:
> Well, you should still use tables to present tabular data. ;)
> 
> Some excellent resources are (sorry for the delay. I pulled these form
> my bookmarks since my memory of URLs lately is obviously flawed):
> 
> http://www.csszengarden.com/
> http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/skidoo_too/index.html
> http://www.positioniseverything.net/
> http://www.alistapart.com
> http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
> http://www.moronicbajebus.com/playground/cssplay/
> http://www.dezwozhere.com/links.html
> http://www.simplebits.com/
> http://www.stopdesign.com/
> 
> On Jan 27, 2005, at 5:56 PM, Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 17:50, Chris Van Cleve wrote:
> >> Scott,
> >>
> >> Chris and I have a history of making fun about web development. Don't
> >> read much into it. Hence all the wink-emoticons.
> >>
> >> Web standards actually save time over table designs once you learn how
> >> to use them, and I have lots of deadlines. Since converting to XHTML
> >
> > No more tables? I'm all for this. Where can I find more information?
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 27, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Scott Phillips wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jeeze.  A guy throws together a site for free and this is the thanks
> >>> he gets?
> >>>
> >>> Standards are great if you have no deadlines nothing better to do
> >>> than
> >>> spend hours and hours trying to figure out which hack you need to
> >>> include to get your other hacks to work so that you site will render
> >>> in any sort of acceptable fashion.  My pages will stay "transitional"
> >>> until this bleeding edge gets a tourniquet.  Tables suck, but not as
> >>> bad as getting pure CSS layouts to work right... at least for now.
> >>> Talk to me when Firefox has a 90% share.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At 05:06 PM 1/26/2005 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>> The new site isn't supposed to look that bad is it? Probably because
> >>>> I'm on a Mac. The fonts are all wonky.
> >>>>
> >>>> /me slaps Chris for using a table-based layout in this age of web
> >>>> standards solutions and accessibility. ;)
> >>>>
> >>>> Overall the site is nice though, Chris. I can't make the meeting.
> >>>> Getting away from work is next to impossible, sorry. I'd only be
> >>>> available for evening or weekend meetings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris Van Cleve
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 26, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Chris Hettinger wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Welcome Scott! It's great to know that more people are learning of
> >>>>> the group and want to participate. I feel that this group is a
> >>>>> needed resource locally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd say I am using PHP on a large scale. I work for ENCOMPASS
> >>>>> Health
> >>>>> Management Systems in West Des Moines. Began here 1.5 years ago and
> >>>>> am soley responsible for the companies Internet site.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've introduced two Mandrake Linux Web Servers into this MS shop.
> >>>>> Have moved their site to Apache and in the last year have launched
> >>>>> 4
> >>>>> Internet web applications and several internal web based apps. The
> >>>>> Internet applications are used by hopsitals, and doctor's offices
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> submit patient, medical services, and clinical information for
> >>>>> review and authorization of care. The applications use both MySQL
> >>>>> and MSSQL databases.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition I provide freelance development services in which I use
> >>>>> MySQL/PHP exclusively.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---- SITE REDEVELOPMENT ----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition to the topic about the group. About a year ago I make a
> >>>>> attempt to reorganize our group however I didn't acheive my goal.
> >>>>> Part of the work I did was to concept and build a new site though
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> never made it to production.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's changed! I've recently produced and uploaded the site!
> >>>>> http://www.cialug.org/ciapug/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You will soon be able to visit the site at ciapug.org once again,
> >>>>> we
> >>>>> need to reregister the domain.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---- SHOTGUN MEETING ----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now to get this rolling lets meet ! I'm calling a shotgun meeting
> >>>>> for:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tues. February 1st
> >>>>> 11:45 AM
> >>>>> Jason's Deli  (Next door to Hu Hot on University Ave West Des
> >>>>> Moines)
> >>>>> Open topic discussion
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope all that are intereted can make it, if you are unable to make
> >>>>> this meeting at the time selected, don't worry we WILL do this
> >>>>> again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please, I encourage you to introduce yourself via the mailing list.
> >>>>> Please include in your introduction a bit about where, why, and how
> >>>>> you use PHP, as well as what you'd like to see the group provide
> >>>>> you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Chris
> >>>>> -CIAPUG webmaster
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
> >>>>>>  I just there are just tons of .net developers out there. Other
> >>>>>> than me
> >>>>>> and Tim is anyone else out there doing anything on a medium to
> >>>>>> large
> >>>>>> scale?
> >>>>>> On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 16:17, Scott Phillips wrote:
> >>>>>>> I just heard about this group this morning and would support any
> >>>>>>> sort of revitalization.  Sometimes I feel like I'm using PHP in a
> >>>>>>> vacuum with all the big corps around here using their fancy-pants
> >>>>>>> Java or .NET developers.  (I even think ColdFusion has a bigger
> >>>>>>> share around here than PHP!)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In any case, hello, and I hope to meet some of you in the near
> >>>>>>> future.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Scott Phillips
> >>>>>>> Web Developer
> >>>>>>> Cowles Library, Drake University
> >>>>>>> (515) 271-2975
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Scott Phillips
> >>> Web Developer
> >>> Cowles Library, Drake University
> >>> (515) 271-2975
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