[ciapug] PHP group and SHOTGUN Meeting Date!

Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:51:11 -0600

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Well, you should still use tables to present tabular data. ;)

Some excellent resources are (sorry for the delay. I pulled these form 
my bookmarks since my memory of URLs lately is obviously flawed):

http://www.csszengarden.com/
http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/skidoo_too/index.html
http://www.positioniseverything.net/
http://www.alistapart.com
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
http://www.moronicbajebus.com/playground/cssplay/
http://www.dezwozhere.com/links.html
http://www.simplebits.com/
http://www.stopdesign.com/

On Jan 27, 2005, at 5:56 PM, Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:

> On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 17:50, Chris Van Cleve wrote:
>> Scott,
>>
>> Chris and I have a history of making fun about web development. Don't
>> read much into it. Hence all the wink-emoticons.
>>
>> Web standards actually save time over table designs once you learn how
>> to use them, and I have lots of deadlines. Since converting to XHTML
>
> No more tables? I'm all for this. Where can I find more information?
>
>
>> On Jan 27, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Scott Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> Jeeze.  A guy throws together a site for free and this is the thanks
>>> he gets?
>>>
>>> Standards are great if you have no deadlines nothing better to do 
>>> than
>>> spend hours and hours trying to figure out which hack you need to
>>> include to get your other hacks to work so that you site will render
>>> in any sort of acceptable fashion.  My pages will stay "transitional"
>>> until this bleeding edge gets a tourniquet.  Tables suck, but not as
>>> bad as getting pure CSS layouts to work right... at least for now.
>>> Talk to me when Firefox has a 90% share.
>>>
>>>
>>> At 05:06 PM 1/26/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>>>> The new site isn't supposed to look that bad is it? Probably because
>>>> I'm on a Mac. The fonts are all wonky.
>>>>
>>>> /me slaps Chris for using a table-based layout in this age of web
>>>> standards solutions and accessibility. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Overall the site is nice though, Chris. I can't make the meeting.
>>>> Getting away from work is next to impossible, sorry. I'd only be
>>>> available for evening or weekend meetings.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Van Cleve
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Chris Hettinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Welcome Scott! It's great to know that more people are learning of
>>>>> the group and want to participate. I feel that this group is a
>>>>> needed resource locally.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd say I am using PHP on a large scale. I work for ENCOMPASS 
>>>>> Health
>>>>> Management Systems in West Des Moines. Began here 1.5 years ago and
>>>>> am soley responsible for the companies Internet site.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've introduced two Mandrake Linux Web Servers into this MS shop.
>>>>> Have moved their site to Apache and in the last year have launched 
>>>>> 4
>>>>> Internet web applications and several internal web based apps. The
>>>>> Internet applications are used by hopsitals, and doctor's offices 
>>>>> to
>>>>> submit patient, medical services, and clinical information for
>>>>> review and authorization of care. The applications use both MySQL
>>>>> and MSSQL databases.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition I provide freelance development services in which I use
>>>>> MySQL/PHP exclusively.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- SITE REDEVELOPMENT ----
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to the topic about the group. About a year ago I make a
>>>>> attempt to reorganize our group however I didn't acheive my goal.
>>>>> Part of the work I did was to concept and build a new site though 
>>>>> it
>>>>> never made it to production.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's changed! I've recently produced and uploaded the site!
>>>>> http://www.cialug.org/ciapug/
>>>>>
>>>>> You will soon be able to visit the site at ciapug.org once again, 
>>>>> we
>>>>> need to reregister the domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- SHOTGUN MEETING ----
>>>>>
>>>>> Now to get this rolling lets meet ! I'm calling a shotgun meeting
>>>>> for:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tues. February 1st
>>>>> 11:45 AM
>>>>> Jason's Deli  (Next door to Hu Hot on University Ave West Des 
>>>>> Moines)
>>>>> Open topic discussion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope all that are intereted can make it, if you are unable to make
>>>>> this meeting at the time selected, don't worry we WILL do this
>>>>> again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, I encourage you to introduce yourself via the mailing list.
>>>>> Please include in your introduction a bit about where, why, and how
>>>>> you use PHP, as well as what you'd like to see the group provide
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Chris
>>>>> -CIAPUG webmaster
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>  I just there are just tons of .net developers out there. Other
>>>>>> than me
>>>>>> and Tim is anyone else out there doing anything on a medium to 
>>>>>> large
>>>>>> scale?
>>>>>> On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 16:17, Scott Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>> I just heard about this group this morning and would support any
>>>>>>> sort of revitalization.  Sometimes I feel like I'm using PHP in a
>>>>>>> vacuum with all the big corps around here using their fancy-pants
>>>>>>> Java or .NET developers.  (I even think ColdFusion has a bigger
>>>>>>> share around here than PHP!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In any case, hello, and I hope to meet some of you in the near
>>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott Phillips
>>>>>>> Web Developer
>>>>>>> Cowles Library, Drake University
>>>>>>> (515) 271-2975
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Scott Phillips
>>> Web Developer
>>> Cowles Library, Drake University
>>> (515) 271-2975
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