I experimented a while back with the Eclipse IDE. My experience was that it was painfully slow. While I wasn't using high-end hardware (2ghz celeron, 1gb ram on xp) I didn't think that my hardware choice that bad... Anyone else have the same experience? :) Dave -- Open Source Information Systems (OSIS) Dave J. Hala Jr. <dave at osis.us> 641.485.1606