There's an article in the March 2004 Linux Journal titled: "Lest We Forget Why Open Source Wins", by Chris Dibona, that uses Tim Perdue's work on Gforge as an example of why Open Source works. Congrats Tim. Way Cool. :) Dave -- "...Unix, MS-DOS and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)" OSIS Dave J. Hala Jr. 641.485.1606