[Cialug] OT: USB Issues

Scott Yates Scott at yatesframe.com
Wed Jul 6 21:07:38 UTC 2022 

I thought nVidia GPUs were pretty well supported for gaming on Linux too?
In Windows at least nVidia is still better.  Drivers are the main issue for
AMD GPUs in Windows (as always).

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 4:00 PM Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> wrote:

> Windows or Linux? Linux gaming finally seems to be here thanks to the Steam
> Deck but only if you use AMD GPUs.
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 9:57 PM Tim Wilson <tim_linux at wilson-home.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I checked with Dymin. They charged me $20 plus tax to test the processor.
> > They said it failed. So either I mishandled it or Best Buy did, or the
> > board fried it. It was working before I sent in the motherboard for
> > testing. Guess I should’ve taken both to Dymin then. But I thought
> Gigabyte
> > would repair it.
> >
> > So now comes the decision. Buy parts, or buy a new PC? And if I buy
> parts,
> > stick with AMD, or go Intel?
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:40 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > You might check with Dymin computers
> > > <https://www.dyminsystems.com/repair-and-sales/>.  They might be able
> to
> > > help diagnose.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 9:32 PM Tim Wilson <tim_linux at wilson-home.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tried a different PSU, no luck. The fans turn on, I hear a click in
> the
> > > > speaker, but no beeps, no video. Is there any place that would test
> the
> > > > processor and/or MB for a reasonable fee?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:52 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Also, if i had an extra CPU, i would make it available to test.
> > Anyone
> > > > > else have one that might fit AM4?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:44 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > While it is not for sure, it is VERY often the case that the psu
> > > > absorbs
> > > > > > the majority of damage during electrical "events".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Even though the motherboard and things are often more delicate,
> it
> > > > always
> > > > > > seems to affect the PSU more than you would expect.  Sometimes it
> > > makes
> > > > > it
> > > > > > marginal, sometimes it kills it outright.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:42 PM Tim Wilson <
> > > tim_linux at wilson-home.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> This PC is the same, no speaker. But the MB has a header, so I
> dug
> > > > out a
> > > > > >> speaker from an old PC. I hear some clicks when it powers up,
> but
> > no
> > > > > >> beeps.
> > > > > >> I don’t see an LED display. The power LED blinks when holding
> the
> > > > power
> > > > > >> button, but it never powers down. Gotta flip the PSU switch. I
> > could
> > > > > get a
> > > > > >> new MB cheap, NewEgg has it on sale. But if it’s the processor,
> > I’d
> > > > > >> probably switch to Intel instead of AMD.
> > > > > >> This is the MB I have:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-wifi/p/N82E16813145164?Item=N82E16813145164&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-145-164-_-06132022
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I’ll try a different PSU. I tried this last year when I was
> trying
> > > to
> > > > > >> figure out the noise coming from the USB powered speakers. That
> > > turned
> > > > > out
> > > > > >> to be a fried speaker, 1 of the 3 devices that were connected.
> > Video
> > > > > >> capture, and external hard drive were the others.  I still don’t
> > > > > >> understand
> > > > > >> how there wasn’t damage to the MB, when 3 of the 5 devices that
> > were
> > > > > >> connected, got fried.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 6:09 PM Scott Yates <
> Scott at yatesframe.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > This is a good point as well.  Though most recent motherboards
> > DO
> > > > > have a
> > > > > >> > postcode seven segment LED displays right on the motherboard.
> > Do
> > > > you
> > > > > >> see
> > > > > >> > any lights at all on the board?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:36 PM Nicholas Olson <
> > > > > >> nicholas.olson83 at gmail.com
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Keeping it simple. Is there even a speaker to generate the
> > > beeps?
> > > > > >> That’s
> > > > > >> > a
> > > > > >> > > phenomenon I discovered in the last few years on my Ryzen
> > > mobos. I
> > > > > >> would
> > > > > >> > > get no beeps on boots whether good or bad. I noticed there
> was
> > > no
> > > > > >> speaker
> > > > > >> > > built in or wired to the front panel header pins. Hooking a
> > > > speaker
> > > > > >> from
> > > > > >> > my
> > > > > >> > > junk drawer to the speaker header and walla. Either the
> single
> > > > > >> > ‘everything
> > > > > >> > > is ok’ beeps, or the POST code for identifying an issue.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Jun 13, 2022, at 12:56 AM, Tim Wilson <
> > > > > tim_linux at wilson-home.com
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > Resurrecting this old thread, need some more help. To get
> > up
> > > to
> > > > > >> speed,
> > > > > >> > > > there was a lightning strike near my house in October.
> > There
> > > > > were 3
> > > > > >> > USB
> > > > > >> > > > devices hooked up to my gaming tower, not including the KB
> > and
> > > > > >> mouse.
> > > > > >> > > All
> > > > > >> > > > 3 were fried (KB and mouse seemed to be ok).  The computer
> > > > > >> continued to
> > > > > >> > > > work, but I was  afraid to plug in anything to the USB
> > ports.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > In March,  I finally decided to send the motherboard into
> > > > Gigabyte
> > > > > >> for
> > > > > >> > > > warranty repair.  To my surprise, they said there was
> > nothing
> > > > > wrong
> > > > > >> > with
> > > > > >> > > > it.  After getting it back, I let it sit for a couple of
> > > > months, I
> > > > > >> > wasn’t
> > > > > >> > > > looking forward to putting it back together.  That was the
> > > > reason
> > > > > I
> > > > > >> > > bought
> > > > > >> > > > a pre-built PC.  I made a mistake in taking it to Best
> Buy,
> > > they
> > > > > >> said
> > > > > >> > > they
> > > > > >> > > > would reassemble it for me.  Thanks to a recent appliance
> > > > > purchase,
> > > > > >> we
> > > > > >> > > had
> > > > > >> > > > their Total Tech, so there wasn’t a charge to assemble it.
> > I
> > > > > >> assumed
> > > > > >> > it
> > > > > >> > > > would be back to either full working order, or at least
> back
> > > to
> > > > > >> what it
> > > > > >> > > was
> > > > > >> > > > prior to sending it in for repair.  Instead, they said it
> > > > wouldn’t
> > > > > >> > boot.
> > > > > >> > > > Of course, they wanted to sell me a new setup.  I decided
> to
> > > > bring
> > > > > >> it
> > > > > >> > > home
> > > > > >> > > > and take a look at it.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > I thought maybe it would be a bent pin on the processor,
> or
> > > > > >> something I
> > > > > >> > > > could figure out.  Unfortunately, I’m stumped.  I don’t
> know
> > > if
> > > > > it’s
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > > MB, or processor.  I don’t get any beeps, even without
> > RAM.  I
> > > > > need
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> > > > either buy new parts, or get it diagnosed.  Does anyone
> know
> > > of
> > > > a
> > > > > >> > place I
> > > > > >> > > > could take it to get it diagnosed?  It’s a Gigabyte MB,
> AM4
> > > > > Socket,
> > > > > >> > > Ryzen 7
> > > > > >> > > > processor, not quite 3 years old.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > TIA!
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 10:35 PM Tim Wilson <
> > > > > >> tim_linux at wilson-home.com
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >> My spare PSU didn't have enough 8 pin connectors, so I
> > > couldn't
> > > > > >> plug
> > > > > >> > in
> > > > > >> > > my
> > > > > >> > > >> video card.  But, I hooked up everything else, and not
> long
> > > > into
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > boot
> > > > > >> > > >> process (pre-OS), the noise returned.  It is definitely
> > > coming
> > > > > from
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > >> speakers.  If I shutdown the PC (but leave the PSU on),
> the
> > > > > >> speakers
> > > > > >> > > stay
> > > > > >> > > >> powered, but no noise.  I should also say that I can plug
> > the
> > > > > >> speakers
> > > > > >> > > into
> > > > > >> > > >> a USB battery and again, no noise.  And the audio comes
> > from
> > > a
> > > > > >> > > connector on
> > > > > >> > > >> the back of a monitor.  So whatever input is selected on
> > the
> > > > > >> monitor,
> > > > > >> > is
> > > > > >> > > >> where the audio comes from.  But the noise stays
> regardless
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> > input
> > > > > >> > > >> selected, if the speaker power cable is plugged into my
> PC.
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> Would purchasing an add-on USB card fix the issue, or do
> > you
> > > > > think
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > >> noise would follow?  Or should I just bite the bullet and
> > > buy a
> > > > > new
> > > > > >> > MB?
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> Now I'm having another problem.  When it is on my desk
> and
> > > > open,
> > > > > I
> > > > > >> can
> > > > > >> > > get
> > > > > >> > > >> the LEDs to work.  But on the floor, the LEDs are off.
> I'm
> > > > sure
> > > > > >> it's
> > > > > >> > a
> > > > > >> > > >> power issue.  There's a power cable that runs from an ATA
> > > power
> > > > > >> > > connector
> > > > > >> > > >> to a board that controls the LEDs. I think one of the
> > > > connectors
> > > > > >> came
> > > > > >> > > loose.
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> Did I say I wish I hadn't bought this thing?  I got
> scared
> > > off
> > > > > from
> > > > > >> > > >> assembling my own since it had been years since I built
> my
> > > last
> > > > > >> one.
> > > > > >> > I
> > > > > >> > > >> might have to do that after all.
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:56 PM L. V. Lammert <
> > > lvl at omnitec.net
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > >>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, David Champion wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >>>> I have a PC power supply tester that give you a reading
> > on
> > > > all
> > > > > of
> > > > > >> > > >>> thevoltages. Also have a multimeter, and we have an
> > o-scope
> > > > (I'm
> > > > > >> not
> > > > > >> > > >>> qualifiedto run but others are) at Area515.
> > > > > >> > > >>> Would it not be simpler to just order a new PSU? At a
> cost
> > > of
> > > > > >> $40, ..
> > > > > >> > > your
> > > > > >> > > >>> time value would be WELL above that - we keep two or
> three
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> > shelf
> > > > > >> > > >>> at all times.
> > > > > >> > > >>>        Lee
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