[Cialug] Mac/Arm

Dave Hala dave at 58ghz.net
Sun Jul 12 18:32:48 UTC 2020


Maybe the solution is to buy an intel powered iMac now, before they
switch....and hope a solution comes up before that machine is end of
life...

On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:28 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> I was thinking about that too. It looks like there is an Arm  version of
> RHEL 8 in the works, but I'm wondering what kind of can of worms that will
> be. I'm wondering will the entire LAMP stack and all the weird little apps
> I use still run on ARM?   Then we are back to breaking the old thing of
> "Dev Environment Should Match the Production environment" rule.
>
> I guess the answer would be to switch production to ARM... but Honestly, I
> would rather tolerate windows than do that.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 12:32 PM Erik Anderson <erikerik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As of right now, my understanding of the situation is that, while there
>> are virtualization options for the ARM based processors, their guests still
>> need to be ARM. As in, they don’t yet translate ARM world into x32/x64
>> world, at least not yet.
>>
>> At some point, I have no doubt that Vbox may support this,  but the
>> performance hit is bound to be hard to stomach.
>>
>> While I’m excited about the some of the efficiency improvements of Apple
>> moving to their own silicon, I’m a bit worried about how it will all play
>> out for use cases like yours, which mirror the dev environments myself and
>> my colleagues use.
>>
>> As our resident guinea pig, I will likely order one of the new ARM
>> machines when they first become available so I can start figuring out
>> what’s broken and how to fix it, before we start ordering them for other
>> employees.
>>
>> - ea
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 11, 2020, at 09:37, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > We were going to transition to the Mac for workstations. We do our
>> > development on Linux (Redhat) VM's using VirtualBox.
>> >
>> > Looks like it's no go.   Is there an open source virtualization tool I
>> can
>> > run on an an arm based mac and accomplish the same thing?
>> >
>> > :) Dave
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