[Cialug] CentOS changes

Dave Hala dave at 58ghz.net
Thu Dec 10 20:42:11 UTC 2020


Andrew do you mean upgrading to Centos 8?  I understand using Centos.  I
get it.  I used a number of the free versions pretty much exclusively when
I started up.

I get the pain of having to switch, and don't take this the wrong way, but
it's but it's kind of like kicking a dead horse to complain about something
that is free.

: ) Dave

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 2:32 PM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com> wrote:

> I guess some of the heart burn comes from folks just having upgraded with a
> promise of a long life cycle only to have it yanked back.
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:33 AM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> > I use a mix of paid and unpaid.  The data center is all paid versions as
> > well as the dev workstations.  It was really handy to have a centos
> version
> > to mess around with. I can live it without it, it's just a little more
> > pain.
> >
> > Costwise, at the entry level,  Unbuntu long term is $125.00 per server vs
> > rhel 8 at 100.00.   I'm ok with an additional 25% if it makes my life
> > easier on the workstation side.
> >
> > Seems like RHEL is starting to turn into "death by a 1000 papercuts".
> >
> > :) Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:18 AM Theron Conrey <theron at conrey.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > A lot of companies that got used to RHEL for free are bummed they can't
> > > anymore. While I get that some will move to other distros, using
> upstream
> > > CentOS at the last snapshot BEFORE it becomes RHEL doesn't seem like a
> > > terrible idea at zero investment cost.
> > >
> > > IT departments upset they can't just get RHEL at no cost though.....
> the
> > > irony they'd switch to something else just to continue not paying for
> > open
> > > source is wild.
> > >
> > > I wonder how many shops that contribute to upstream codebases will
> > switch.
> > > My guess is those supporting the ecosystem won't be flustered, but
> those
> > > who only treat it as a free product will be bent and leave.
> > >
> > > -theron
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:01 AM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So, this is happening...
> > > >
> > > > https://itsfoss.com/centos-stream-fiasco/
> > > >
> > > > TL;DR is CentOS will no longer be the stable release that mirrors
> RHEL,
> > > it
> > > > will be more like Fedora. CentOS 7 will be supported through 2024.
> > Looks
> > > > like IBM is trying to drive more people to paying for RHEL, or more
> > > likely
> > > > drive them to using another free alternative like Ubuntu server.
> > > >
> > > > -dc
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