[Cialug] Package Your Damned App

Adam Shannon adamkshannon at gmail.com
Wed Feb 20 16:36:24 UTC 2019

You might like the docker images over at

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 6:28 AM Todd Walton <tdwalton at gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, the subject line is a little much. I don't actually feel that
> strongly about it. But I do very much wish that some of the useful
> applications I use or would like to use were compiled, packaged, or
> otherwise distributed in such a way that I didn't have to use your
> programming language's special snowflake distribution mechanism. I got
> a new laptop recently and I've been trying very hard to not install
> anything to it that's not high value to my productivity. I want to
> keep it clean. And so I've been learning to install the other oddball
> stuff into containers or the like. But some stuff just doesn't work
> that very well doing that. I got libreoffice to install in a Docker
> container and it works! That was awesome. But anything that uses
> curses seems to be a no go. (Ncurses, I mean. My own dirty mouth has
> run unabated.)
> I wouldn't have to go to this effort if I could get compiled
> applications that didn't rely on cargo, pip, npm, etc. Those apps are
> always getting into trouble stepping on their own feet. I have
> learned, in case you didn't know, that pip and virtualenv are no
> longer the "preferred" way for end users to manage their Python
> packages. There's a new thing called pipenv and it's the bees knees.
> But it still takes effort to manage. Effort I'd rather be putting into
> my actual work work.
> Also, when do we get to the place where everyone respects XDG base
> dirs? Or at least stops hard coding their working directories into the
> application? Give me an environment variable? Something?
> Happy Hump Day everybody!
> --
> Todd
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