[Cialug] Century link fiber

Dave Hala dave at 58ghz.net
Tue Oct 16 21:21:36 UTC 2018


I used to work on a lot Cisco of routers.  They worked were fine.  Back
then my complaint  was that the command line interface seemed to be
slightly different on nearly every model.

:) Dave

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:19 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Some people would consider it a bonus if it isn't Cisco. :)
>
> I think Cisco makes great switches. Not really fond of their firewalls.
>
> -dc
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:15 PM John Moder <jmoder at crispsolutions.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Its good gear.
> >
> > I am partial to the Unfi Line.
> >
> > I have about 15 SMB’s clients on it now that I manage.  Their gear has
> > been incredibly reliable.
> >
> > That said, it isn’t Cisco, and doesn’t have the support of Cisco/Meraki.
> > Support is largely in the forums or slack channels.
> >
> > As I said, I like the Unifi stuff because of the controller, in
> particular
> > I like the cloud key as I can get to it remotely through UBNT’s.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > —-
> > John L. Moder, II
> > Owner/President
> > Crisp Solutions, LLC
> > jmoder at crispsolutions.net<mailto:jmoder at crispsolutions.net>
> > (515) 423-0160 Ext. 101
> > http://www.crispsolutions.net
> >
> > On Oct 16, 2018, at 16:09, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net<mailto:
> dave at 58ghz.net>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I've been a lot freaked out about commodity routers for the last couple
> of
> > years and wanted to try something that didn't come out of the commodity
> > mold.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:06 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:dchamp1337 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > The Ubiquiti AP's are really nice. I've set up a few of them have never
> let
> > me down. We also use them at the Area515 makerspace.
> >
> > Haven't used one of their routers yet but have heard good things.
> >
> > -dc
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:00 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net<mailto:
> > dave at 58ghz.net>> wrote:
> >
> > I just bought an Edge Router X and AP pro for home.
> >
> > Anyone have any issues with it?  Anything you really like or dislike?
> >
> > :) Dave
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:53 PM Adam Hill <adam at diginc.us<mailto:
> > adam at diginc.us>> wrote:
> >
> > I opted to buy (not rent) the Zyxel C3000 when I signed up, just to
> > have
> > something that was a 'supported' modem/router, but I leave it off and
> > use
> > my own.  With gigabit fiber into the home they just plug in the
> > Ethernet
> > from the fiber box, which there is no added charge for.
> >
> > Like Rob I took all the settings out of their modem and programmed them
> > into my Ubiquiti router.  VLAN 201 + PPPOE user & pass is the gist of
> > the
> > settings IIRC.
> >
> > If I ever have any issues (I haven't yet) I can plug in their modem and
> > call up support.  Plus it acts as a backup/spare should I have a
> > Ubiquiti
> > issue.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:01 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:dchamp1337 at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I used to work for an ISP, and did some evaluation on various modems.
> > There
> > can be a lot of difference in the speed you get depending on the
> > modem
> > /
> > router you're using. Some of the DSL modems that CenturyLink supplies
> > are
> > really slow.
> >
> > I had the best luck with the un-branded Zyxel modems for ADSL / VDSL.
> > The
> > versions with the CenturyLink firmware were usually limited the
> > available
> > features, and they probably have a back-door on them that CL and who
> > knows
> > who else can get into. Also... the default configuration on some of
> > the
> > CL
> > modems does a permanent DHCP reservation for every device that ever
> > connects to them. If you set one up with a guest wifi at a business,
> > your
> > /24 subnet will fill up with reservations real fast.
> >
> > My favorite experiment was taking two old modems in bridging mode,
> > and
> > strapping them to a mikrotik router with zip ties to make a bonded
> > modem.
> > For some reason that one never got out of the lab, but it worked
> > great.
> >
> > -dc
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:39 PM Don Ellis <don.ellis at gmail.com<mailto:
> > don.ellis at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > When Charter/Spectrum upgraded our network, I was tempted to get my
> > own
> > modem, however, since I'm paying for the modem anyway, and they
> > would
> > be
> > responsible for maintenance/repairs/replacement, I elected to get
> > their
> > modem.
> >
> > There was an optional Router/WiFi unit at extra charge ($5/month).
> > I
> > found
> > a separate unit at MicroCenter. Comparing $5/month with buying my
> > own
> > with
> > a 3 year extended warranty, it looks like the separate piece is
> > less
> > expensive in the first three years; any life after that is gravy. I
> > think
> > the price with warranty was around $100-$120.
> >
> > I have not been impressed with performance or features of
> > ISP-provided
> > routers. In more than one instance, I have connected a separate
> > router/WAP
> > to the unit provided by the ISP, whether modem or combo. If
> > successful
> > at
> > connecting the separate unit through the ISP's component, I get
> > more
> > control over routing and usually a more stable WiFi connection, all
> > with
> > more options. I haven't tried connecting to more recent versions of
> > ISP-provided combo units, but I have [misplace?] confidence that it
> > can
> > still be done. You should be able to turn off WiFi and just use
> > WiFi
> > on
> > the
> > aftermarket router.
> >
> > --Don Ellis
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 7:16 PM Rob Cook <rdjcook at gmail.com<mailto:
> > rdjcook at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > They use a Zyxel C3000Z AIO crappy modem/router. I replaced mine
> > with a
> > Ubiquiti Edge Router X.
> >
> > On Oct 13, 2018 6:55 PM, "chris rheinherren" <
> > c.rheinherren at gmail.com<mailto:c.rheinherren at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I think Century Link Fiber has the modem gateways with really bad
> > range
> > for
> > the Wifi portion.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 6:51 PM Dan Hockey <icepuck2k at gmail.com<mailto:
> > icepuck2k at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know what CL use's for hardware? Is it just a modem
> > or
> > is
> > one
> > of those crappy all in one modem/routers? When I upgraded to my
> > 40mbs
> > dsl
> > I
> > tried to explain all I wanted was a plain dsl modem like what
> > had
> > before.
> > they sent me an AIO instead. I never did figure out how to port
> > forward
> > through the damn thing.
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