From tdwalton at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 14:27:10 2018
From: tdwalton at gmail.com (Todd Walton)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 09:27:10 -0500
Subject: [Cialug] SQL Query My Mail
Message-ID: <CALm_Md-nQBgAbBdHZz6_XeAChC67pKJVwvOXF9rkGqDLdCF9_w@mail.gmail.com>

You know what would be cool? Of course you do, you've already read the
subject line!

I would like to be able to run ad hoc SQL queries against an email
source. Even if it were a little less than performant.

--
Todd

From kristau at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 19:50:21 2018
From: kristau at gmail.com (kristau)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 13:50:21 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
Message-ID: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>

ICMP packet sent.
-- 
Tired programmer
Coding late into the night
The core dump follows

From chapinjeff at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 19:52:32 2018
From: chapinjeff at gmail.com (Jeff Chapin)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 13:52:32 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJt84+M-GaVL2-W-XH5JTr+RjopcUb8UEjY5gy3kEN0WO2r-Yg@mail.gmail.com>

ICMP echo response

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:

> ICMP packet sent.
> --
> Tired programmer
> Coding late into the night
> The core dump follows
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


-- 
Jeff Chapin
President, CedarLug, retired
President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
President, UNI Scuba Club
Senator, NISG, retired

From dave at 58ghz.net  Fri Dec 14 19:57:56 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 13:57:56 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <CAJt84+M-GaVL2-W-XH5JTr+RjopcUb8UEjY5gy3kEN0WO2r-Yg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJt84+M-GaVL2-W-XH5JTr+RjopcUb8UEjY5gy3kEN0WO2r-Yg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>

ICMP Destination Unreachable

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com> wrote:

> ICMP echo response
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ICMP packet sent.
> > --
> > Tired programmer
> > Coding late into the night
> > The core dump follows
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
>
>
> --
> Jeff Chapin
> President, CedarLug, retired
> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
> President, UNI Scuba Club
> Senator, NISG, retired
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


-- 
NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.

From nick.s.copeland at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 20:01:55 2018
From: nick.s.copeland at gmail.com (Nick Copeland)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 14:01:55 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJt84+M-GaVL2-W-XH5JTr+RjopcUb8UEjY5gy3kEN0WO2r-Yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>

I’d like to tell you a UDP joke but I’m afraid you might not get it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> 
> ICMP Destination Unreachable
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ICMP echo response
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ICMP packet sent.
>>> --
>>> Tired programmer
>>> Coding late into the night
>>> The core dump follows
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Cialug mailing list
>>> Cialug at cialug.org
>>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Jeff Chapin
>> President, CedarLug, retired
>> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
>> President, UNI Scuba Club
>> Senator, NISG, retired
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cialug mailing list
>> Cialug at cialug.org
>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug

From kristau at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 20:09:14 2018
From: kristau at gmail.com (kristau)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 14:09:14 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJt84+M-GaVL2-W-XH5JTr+RjopcUb8UEjY5gy3kEN0WO2r-Yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM+7bFS4-SX28W9RUnpMW45dJW8R5TVSVHPk8e00fqkZvNNHPg@mail.gmail.com>

Please ACK receipt of this TCP joke I've SYN'd to you.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:03 PM Nick Copeland <nick.s.copeland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I’d like to tell you a UDP joke but I’m afraid you might not get it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >
> > ICMP Destination Unreachable
> >
> >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ICMP echo response
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ICMP packet sent.
> >>> --
> >>> Tired programmer
> >>> Coding late into the night
> >>> The core dump follows
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Cialug mailing list
> >>> Cialug at cialug.org
> >>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeff Chapin
> >> President, CedarLug, retired
> >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
> >> President, UNI Scuba Club
> >> Senator, NISG, retired
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Cialug mailing list
> >> Cialug at cialug.org
> >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug



-- 
Tired programmer
Coding late into the night
The core dump follows

From fromj2sitsme at msn.com  Fri Dec 14 21:17:31 2018
From: fromj2sitsme at msn.com (Jared Brees)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 21:17:31 +0000
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <CAM+7bFS4-SX28W9RUnpMW45dJW8R5TVSVHPk8e00fqkZvNNHPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJt84+M-GaVL2-W-XH5JTr+RjopcUb8UEjY5gy3kEN0WO2r-Yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>,
 <CAM+7bFS4-SX28W9RUnpMW45dJW8R5TVSVHPk8e00fqkZvNNHPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR20MB1994AB6ED42797C9E114B9089EA10@DM5PR20MB1994.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

Yay it works. Host is up.

[Sent via Pixel XL]

________________________________
From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of kristau <kristau at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:09:14 PM
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!

Please ACK receipt of this TCP joke I've SYN'd to you.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:03 PM Nick Copeland <nick.s.copeland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I’d like to tell you a UDP joke but I’m afraid you might not get it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >
> > ICMP Destination Unreachable
> >
> >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ICMP echo response
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ICMP packet sent.
> >>> --
> >>> Tired programmer
> >>> Coding late into the night
> >>> The core dump follows
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Cialug mailing list
> >>> Cialug at cialug.org
> >>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeff Chapin
> >> President, CedarLug, retired
> >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
> >> President, UNI Scuba Club
> >> Senator, NISG, retired
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Cialug mailing list
> >> Cialug at cialug.org
> >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug



--
Tired programmer
Coding late into the night
The core dump follows
_______________________________________________
Cialug mailing list
Cialug at cialug.org
https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug

From dave at 58ghz.net  Fri Dec 14 21:23:23 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 15:23:23 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR20MB1994AB6ED42797C9E114B9089EA10@DM5PR20MB1994.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJt84+M-GaVL2-W-XH5JTr+RjopcUb8UEjY5gy3kEN0WO2r-Yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>
 <CAM+7bFS4-SX28W9RUnpMW45dJW8R5TVSVHPk8e00fqkZvNNHPg@mail.gmail.com>
 <DM5PR20MB1994AB6ED42797C9E114B9089EA10@DM5PR20MB1994.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CADYn_tszWnChuRu0_KFS-0R_6q3sqRq6QgOczFVaNxosb_g__A@mail.gmail.com>

Jared, How do you like that pixel phone?

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:18 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com> wrote:

> Yay it works. Host is up.
>
> [Sent via Pixel XL]
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of kristau <
> kristau at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:09:14 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!
>
> Please ACK receipt of this TCP joke I've SYN'd to you.
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:03 PM Nick Copeland <nick.s.copeland at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I’d like to tell you a UDP joke but I’m afraid you might not get it.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > ICMP Destination Unreachable
> > >
> > >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ICMP echo response
> > >>
> > >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> ICMP packet sent.
> > >>> --
> > >>> Tired programmer
> > >>> Coding late into the night
> > >>> The core dump follows
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Cialug mailing list
> > >>> Cialug at cialug.org
> > >>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jeff Chapin
> > >> President, CedarLug, retired
> > >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
> > >> President, UNI Scuba Club
> > >> Senator, NISG, retired
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Cialug mailing list
> > >> Cialug at cialug.org
> > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>
>
>
> --
> Tired programmer
> Coding late into the night
> The core dump follows
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


-- 
NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.

From linux-list at upeke.com  Sun Dec 16 08:49:47 2018
From: linux-list at upeke.com (Andrew Denner)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 02:49:47 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <CADYn_tszWnChuRu0_KFS-0R_6q3sqRq6QgOczFVaNxosb_g__A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJt84+M-GaVL2-W-XH5JTr+RjopcUb8UEjY5gy3kEN0WO2r-Yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>
 <CAM+7bFS4-SX28W9RUnpMW45dJW8R5TVSVHPk8e00fqkZvNNHPg@mail.gmail.com>
 <DM5PR20MB1994AB6ED42797C9E114B9089EA10@DM5PR20MB1994.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
 <CADYn_tszWnChuRu0_KFS-0R_6q3sqRq6QgOczFVaNxosb_g__A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGxr9brupxFrURuCrAGs+O+oTFb8uWqvtK_J+s1UDOM=HRR8oQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have the pixel2 xl, so far so good. The camera on it performs rather
good, and the new features that they just rolled out including night photo
mode, and call screening are rather nice.

Google fi can be rather schizophrenic at times.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:24 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> Jared, How do you like that pixel phone?
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:18 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Yay it works. Host is up.
> >
> > [Sent via Pixel XL]
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of kristau <
> > kristau at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:09:14 PM
> > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!
> >
> > Please ACK receipt of this TCP joke I've SYN'd to you.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:03 PM Nick Copeland <nick.s.copeland at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I’d like to tell you a UDP joke but I’m afraid you might not get it.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ICMP Destination Unreachable
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> ICMP echo response
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ICMP packet sent.
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Tired programmer
> > > >>> Coding late into the night
> > > >>> The core dump follows
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>> Cialug mailing list
> > > >>> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > >>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Jeff Chapin
> > > >> President, CedarLug, retired
> > > >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
> > > >> President, UNI Scuba Club
> > > >> Senator, NISG, retired
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> Cialug mailing list
> > > >> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> Organizations.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tired programmer
> > Coding late into the night
> > The core dump follows
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
>
>
> --
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From linux-list at upeke.com  Sun Dec 16 08:52:45 2018
From: linux-list at upeke.com (Andrew Denner)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 02:52:45 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] December Meeting: 12/19
In-Reply-To: <CAGxr9bqaHdUnbCZqR-6r3VK194UUSHgCpRGbd9N08s179eJfJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGxr9boMkDcQR-3jYU2byYXyRx+Bzn5N9OoK2OmrWNWgLQ76+Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9bo0ZfVjzkdcOTLocvtAo39K1FVbnPbmfLUrgTasztWkQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9bpgH8yho9cRK3hwyUix3FNNTZkbNt8GYGzYy77yoE=0wA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9bqvbShNFGirLbFeDxBgeHD8zG1DTHf7YGnWybYLPs_LVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9boEtjkgFJzk1mfOrKBJuK2X2UsELR58NxxeFeegx841ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9bqxOiAjUd_36yL425iWBgtKz67MvKmfGidM4KTf1UtTfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9bprAFNqe5d0T_A-b2-ZfWPst_pCu+-7kUgF7zJaWn6HYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9bqNC=bC+J8o1Xr1VGLgEzqOWHB=33j5G+bHcsRUBcHfbQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9bqBpoyuc1HsKEso_=hMxO1P7h_vKJw=m_O_eadsVdDHVA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9bqaHdUnbCZqR-6r3VK194UUSHgCpRGbd9N08s179eJfJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGxr9brr1NEXKkhdpJadxHvF+v4Tx=Px-8DV0EyeQ-vno-qS5w@mail.gmail.com>

Reminder that the Maker's space (at their new location) will be hosting our
meeting this Wednesday. Jared will be presenting on using linux to
coordinate lights and sound.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:46 PM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com> wrote:

> The Makers at Area 515 have volunteered to host us for our December
> Meeting at their new location.
>
>
>> - title: "December Meeting: TBD and tour of new Area 515 Maker's space"
>> group: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group (CIALUG)"
>> location: "Area 515 108 Jefferson Avenue, Des Moines IA"
>>
>> details_url: "https://www.cialug.org/?page_id=7&event_id=1087"
>>
>> date: "December 19"
>> time: "7:00 - 8:30 pm"
>>
>>

From mike at visionary.com  Mon Dec 17 20:33:40 2018
From: mike at visionary.com (Mike Hughes)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 20:33:40 +0000
Subject: [Cialug] Local vendor for RHV support
Message-ID: <DM6PR19MB22812B7D5B0D248F4CB96F9FD1BC0@DM6PR19MB2281.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Hi CIALUG,

We're evaluating RHV to replace VMware for our development environment and one of the hang-ups is finding a local vendor with RHV experience. I understand Red Hat offers support via phone, web, etc. but when we run into glitches with VMware it's nice to bring in local brains to help out.
Is anyone aware of a vendor who has experience bulding/troubleshooting RHV in the DSM area?

Thank you!

Michael Hughes // System Administrator
Visionary Services, Inc.
300 East Locust Ste 250
Des Moines IA 50309

P1: 515.369.3545 ext. 116
P2: 888.303.2848 ext. 116
f: 515.369.3546
visionary.com

[Description: Visionary-4PMS]


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From dchamp1337 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 15:36:42 2018
From: dchamp1337 at gmail.com (David Champion)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:36:42 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] December Meeting: 12/19
In-Reply-To: <CAGxr9brr1NEXKkhdpJadxHvF+v4Tx=Px-8DV0EyeQ-vno-qS5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGxr9boMkDcQR-3jYU2byYXyRx+Bzn5N9OoK2OmrWNWgLQ76+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJ7QWVNZr2TSZRi7KaLDfQMHcnqovMFnR8FJZZUFx8vog+ebFA@mail.gmail.com>

Area515 is looking forward to hosting CIALUG again, this time at the new
location. I'll give a quick talk about the Makerspace and what we've been
up to, and we'll have tours of the building.

We are now located at 108 Jefferson, that's just off 2nd Avenue near the
Des Moines river bridge. There's a Hammer Medical building on the corner of
2nd and Jefferson where you turn.

--
David Champion
President, Area515
Past President, CIALUG


On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 2:54 AM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com> wrote:

> Reminder that the Maker's space (at their new location) will be hosting our
> meeting this Wednesday. Jared will be presenting on using linux to
> coordinate lights and sound.
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:46 PM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The Makers at Area 515 have volunteered to host us for our December
> > Meeting at their new location.
> >
> >
> >> - title: "December Meeting: TBD and tour of new Area 515 Maker's space"
> >> group: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group (CIALUG)"
> >> location: "Area 515 108 Jefferson Avenue, Des Moines IA"
> >>
> >> details_url: "https://www.cialug.org/?page_id=7&event_id=1087"
> >>
> >> date: "December 19"
> >> time: "7:00 - 8:30 pm"
> >>
> >>
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From fromj2sitsme at msn.com  Tue Dec 18 19:18:53 2018
From: fromj2sitsme at msn.com (Jared Brees)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 19:18:53 +0000
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <CAGxr9brupxFrURuCrAGs+O+oTFb8uWqvtK_J+s1UDOM=HRR8oQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
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 <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <DM5PR20MB199443C028A665CA2F5602109EBD0@DM5PR20MB1994.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

I loved it until Android P. Now it's a total mess, especially with notifications. Some don't trigger, some trigger late, some trigger multiple times at various intervals after they were supposed to happen. There's at least a 1-second delay before the first picture is taken after opening the camera app (subsequent shots are more acceptable, but still somewhat sporadic). About the only thing I still really like about it is the unlimited full-size photo storage that was included with the Pixel/Pixel XL (original, version 1) phones.

This was a free phone due to a warranty battery issue with my Nexus 6P. Even when the Pixel XL was new (before getting P on my phone), I overall preferred the Nexus 6P. Oh, and the Pixel/2/3 series is very ugly compared to the 6P :-)

[Sent via Pixel XL]

________________________________
From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:49:47 AM
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!

I have the pixel2 xl, so far so good. The camera on it performs rather
good, and the new features that they just rolled out including night photo
mode, and call screening are rather nice.

Google fi can be rather schizophrenic at times.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:24 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> Jared, How do you like that pixel phone?
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:18 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Yay it works. Host is up.
> >
> > [Sent via Pixel XL]
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of kristau <
> > kristau at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:09:14 PM
> > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!
> >
> > Please ACK receipt of this TCP joke I've SYN'd to you.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:03 PM Nick Copeland <nick.s.copeland at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I’d like to tell you a UDP joke but I’m afraid you might not get it.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ICMP Destination Unreachable
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> ICMP echo response
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ICMP packet sent.
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Tired programmer
> > > >>> Coding late into the night
> > > >>> The core dump follows
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>> Cialug mailing list
> > > >>> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > >>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Jeff Chapin
> > > >> President, CedarLug, retired
> > > >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
> > > >> President, UNI Scuba Club
> > > >> Senator, NISG, retired
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> Cialug mailing list
> > > >> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> Organizations.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tired programmer
> > Coding late into the night
> > The core dump follows
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
>
>
> --
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>
_______________________________________________
Cialug mailing list
Cialug at cialug.org
https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug

From rdjcook at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 22:19:03 2018
From: rdjcook at gmail.com (Rob Cook)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:19:03 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR20MB199443C028A665CA2F5602109EBD0@DM5PR20MB1994.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>
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 <CAGxr9brupxFrURuCrAGs+O+oTFb8uWqvtK_J+s1UDOM=HRR8oQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAB0G93dSvyveADqv5b3CaVdiGxxyW-C_sOAHjOFGbE7V2PHBow@mail.gmail.com>

Look at the OnePlus 6T if your considering a change. It's been very nice so
far.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:19 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com> wrote:

> I loved it until Android P. Now it's a total mess, especially with
> notifications. Some don't trigger, some trigger late, some trigger multiple
> times at various intervals after they were supposed to happen. There's at
> least a 1-second delay before the first picture is taken after opening the
> camera app (subsequent shots are more acceptable, but still somewhat
> sporadic). About the only thing I still really like about it is the
> unlimited full-size photo storage that was included with the Pixel/Pixel XL
> (original, version 1) phones.
>
> This was a free phone due to a warranty battery issue with my Nexus 6P.
> Even when the Pixel XL was new (before getting P on my phone), I overall
> preferred the Nexus 6P. Oh, and the Pixel/2/3 series is very ugly compared
> to the 6P :-)
>
> [Sent via Pixel XL]
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of Andrew Denner <
> linux-list at upeke.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:49:47 AM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!
>
> I have the pixel2 xl, so far so good. The camera on it performs rather
> good, and the new features that they just rolled out including night photo
> mode, and call screening are rather nice.
>
> Google fi can be rather schizophrenic at times.
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:24 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> > Jared, How do you like that pixel phone?
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:18 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Yay it works. Host is up.
> > >
> > > [Sent via Pixel XL]
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of kristau <
> > > kristau at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:09:14 PM
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!
> > >
> > > Please ACK receipt of this TCP joke I've SYN'd to you.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:03 PM Nick Copeland <
> nick.s.copeland at gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I’d like to tell you a UDP joke but I’m afraid you might not get it.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ICMP Destination Unreachable
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ICMP echo response
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ICMP packet sent.
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> Tired programmer
> > > > >>> Coding late into the night
> > > > >>> The core dump follows
> > > > >>> _______________________________________________
> > > > >>> Cialug mailing list
> > > > >>> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > >>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Jeff Chapin
> > > > >> President, CedarLug, retired
> > > > >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
> > > > >> President, UNI Scuba Club
> > > > >> Senator, NISG, retired
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >> Cialug mailing list
> > > > >> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> > Organizations.
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tired programmer
> > > Coding late into the night
> > > The core dump follows
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


-- 
Rob Cook
rdjcook at gmail.com

From dchamp1337 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 15:25:55 2018
From: dchamp1337 at gmail.com (David Champion)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 09:25:55 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <CAB0G93dSvyveADqv5b3CaVdiGxxyW-C_sOAHjOFGbE7V2PHBow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>
 <CAM+7bFS4-SX28W9RUnpMW45dJW8R5TVSVHPk8e00fqkZvNNHPg@mail.gmail.com>
 <DM5PR20MB1994AB6ED42797C9E114B9089EA10@DM5PR20MB1994.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
 <CADYn_tszWnChuRu0_KFS-0R_6q3sqRq6QgOczFVaNxosb_g__A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9brupxFrURuCrAGs+O+oTFb8uWqvtK_J+s1UDOM=HRR8oQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJ7QWVMeDp1Jzc5XLHWUYbpgxSzAvzdUeM2z9fTLCL2u2245qQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, but did you get the 6T McLaren limited edition?

-dc


On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:20 PM Rob Cook <rdjcook at gmail.com> wrote:

> Look at the OnePlus 6T if your considering a change. It's been very nice so
> far.
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:19 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > I loved it until Android P. Now it's a total mess, especially with
> > notifications. Some don't trigger, some trigger late, some trigger
> multiple
> > times at various intervals after they were supposed to happen. There's at
> > least a 1-second delay before the first picture is taken after opening
> the
> > camera app (subsequent shots are more acceptable, but still somewhat
> > sporadic). About the only thing I still really like about it is the
> > unlimited full-size photo storage that was included with the Pixel/Pixel
> XL
> > (original, version 1) phones.
> >
> > This was a free phone due to a warranty battery issue with my Nexus 6P.
> > Even when the Pixel XL was new (before getting P on my phone), I overall
> > preferred the Nexus 6P. Oh, and the Pixel/2/3 series is very ugly
> compared
> > to the 6P :-)
> >
> > [Sent via Pixel XL]
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of Andrew Denner <
> > linux-list at upeke.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:49:47 AM
> > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!
> >
> > I have the pixel2 xl, so far so good. The camera on it performs rather
> > good, and the new features that they just rolled out including night
> photo
> > mode, and call screening are rather nice.
> >
> > Google fi can be rather schizophrenic at times.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:24 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Jared, How do you like that pixel phone?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:18 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yay it works. Host is up.
> > > >
> > > > [Sent via Pixel XL]
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of kristau <
> > > > kristau at gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:09:14 PM
> > > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!
> > > >
> > > > Please ACK receipt of this TCP joke I've SYN'd to you.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:03 PM Nick Copeland <
> > nick.s.copeland at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I’d like to tell you a UDP joke but I’m afraid you might not get
> it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ICMP Destination Unreachable
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <
> chapinjeff at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ICMP echo response
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> ICMP packet sent.
> > > > > >>> --
> > > > > >>> Tired programmer
> > > > > >>> Coding late into the night
> > > > > >>> The core dump follows
> > > > > >>> _______________________________________________
> > > > > >>> Cialug mailing list
> > > > > >>> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > >>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Jeff Chapin
> > > > > >> President, CedarLug, retired
> > > > > >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
> > > > > >> President, UNI Scuba Club
> > > > > >> Senator, NISG, retired
> > > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > > >> Cialug mailing list
> > > > > >> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> > > Organizations.
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tired programmer
> > > > Coding late into the night
> > > > The core dump follows
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
>
>
> --
> Rob Cook
> rdjcook at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From rdjcook at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 17:08:08 2018
From: rdjcook at gmail.com (Rob Cook)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 11:08:08 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Ping!
In-Reply-To: <CAJ7QWVMeDp1Jzc5XLHWUYbpgxSzAvzdUeM2z9fTLCL2u2245qQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM+7bFR52UcKCFUA02MGXAxVw_qguCbzyC3SOpbp4zbz75r8+g@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CADYn_ts3JRvYideiP56XSBq83uC1bJDecH1=n7SG-jvjoWV7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5CD1FBD5-4727-45B3-8C16-787794A7E231@gmail.com>
 <CAM+7bFS4-SX28W9RUnpMW45dJW8R5TVSVHPk8e00fqkZvNNHPg@mail.gmail.com>
 <DM5PR20MB1994AB6ED42797C9E114B9089EA10@DM5PR20MB1994.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
 <CADYn_tszWnChuRu0_KFS-0R_6q3sqRq6QgOczFVaNxosb_g__A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9brupxFrURuCrAGs+O+oTFb8uWqvtK_J+s1UDOM=HRR8oQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAB0G93dxo3000rGMdi770ek_1Y2hm7S=DdLnMbkbguMHeP5A_A@mail.gmail.com>

i would have had I not placed my order the day before it was announced!

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 9:27 AM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, but did you get the 6T McLaren limited edition?
>
> -dc
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:20 PM Rob Cook <rdjcook at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Look at the OnePlus 6T if your considering a change. It's been very nice
> so
> > far.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:19 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I loved it until Android P. Now it's a total mess, especially with
> > > notifications. Some don't trigger, some trigger late, some trigger
> > multiple
> > > times at various intervals after they were supposed to happen. There's
> at
> > > least a 1-second delay before the first picture is taken after opening
> > the
> > > camera app (subsequent shots are more acceptable, but still somewhat
> > > sporadic). About the only thing I still really like about it is the
> > > unlimited full-size photo storage that was included with the
> Pixel/Pixel
> > XL
> > > (original, version 1) phones.
> > >
> > > This was a free phone due to a warranty battery issue with my Nexus 6P.
> > > Even when the Pixel XL was new (before getting P on my phone), I
> overall
> > > preferred the Nexus 6P. Oh, and the Pixel/2/3 series is very ugly
> > compared
> > > to the 6P :-)
> > >
> > > [Sent via Pixel XL]
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of Andrew Denner <
> > > linux-list at upeke.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:49:47 AM
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!
> > >
> > > I have the pixel2 xl, so far so good. The camera on it performs rather
> > > good, and the new features that they just rolled out including night
> > photo
> > > mode, and call screening are rather nice.
> > >
> > > Google fi can be rather schizophrenic at times.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:24 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jared, How do you like that pixel phone?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:18 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yay it works. Host is up.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Sent via Pixel XL]
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of kristau <
> > > > > kristau at gmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:09:14 PM
> > > > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ping!
> > > > >
> > > > > Please ACK receipt of this TCP joke I've SYN'd to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:03 PM Nick Copeland <
> > > nick.s.copeland at gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I’d like to tell you a UDP joke but I’m afraid you might not get
> > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Dec 14, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ICMP Destination Unreachable
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jeff Chapin <
> > chapinjeff at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> ICMP echo response
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> ICMP packet sent.
> > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > >>> Tired programmer
> > > > > > >>> Coding late into the night
> > > > > > >>> The core dump follows
> > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________
> > > > > > >>> Cialug mailing list
> > > > > > >>> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > > >>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> Jeff Chapin
> > > > > > >> President, CedarLug, retired
> > > > > > >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"
> > > > > > >> President, UNI Scuba Club
> > > > > > >> Senator, NISG, retired
> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > > > >> Cialug mailing list
> > > > > > >> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> > > > Organizations.
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tired programmer
> > > > > Coding late into the night
> > > > > The core dump follows
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> Organizations.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob Cook
> > rdjcook at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


-- 
Rob Cook
rdjcook at gmail.com

From lvl at omnitec.net  Wed Dec 19 23:03:58 2018
From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 17:03:58 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Cialug] LibreOfficd Draw & PDFs
Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.53.1812191703290.27551@mail.omnitec.net>


Been using Draw for MANY years to edit PDFs, .. but now, twice in the past
two weeks,  it is refusing to open a PDF that I assume is coming from MS
Office.

Has anyone seen a change in PDFs output from the MS world?

        Lee

From c.rheinherren at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 01:01:15 2018
From: c.rheinherren at gmail.com (chris rheinherren)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 19:01:15 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] December Meeting: 12/19
In-Reply-To: <CAGxr9brr1NEXKkhdpJadxHvF+v4Tx=Px-8DV0EyeQ-vno-qS5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGxr9boMkDcQR-3jYU2byYXyRx+Bzn5N9OoK2OmrWNWgLQ76+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAGxr9bqxOiAjUd_36yL425iWBgtKz67MvKmfGidM4KTf1UtTfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxr9bprAFNqe5d0T_A-b2-ZfWPst_pCu+-7kUgF7zJaWn6HYw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAC7WSo+DFm9GDe1F_Y-UMCmoOOf6EFnpZM0OhgPOMdaq8Djy4w@mail.gmail.com>

I can't make this today. Any chance of a transcript being available
afterwards


On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 2:54 AM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com wrote:

> Reminder that the Maker's space (at their new location) will be hosting our
> meeting this Wednesday. Jared will be presenting on using linux to
> coordinate lights and sound.
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:46 PM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The Makers at Area 515 have volunteered to host us for our December
> > Meeting at their new location.
> >
> >
> >> - title: "December Meeting: TBD and tour of new Area 515 Maker's space"
> >> group: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group (CIALUG)"
> >> location: "Area 515 108 Jefferson Avenue, Des Moines IA"
> >>
> >> details_url: "https://www.cialug.org/?page_id=7&event_id=1087"
> >>
> >> date: "December 19"
> >> time: "7:00 - 8:30 pm"
> >>
> >>
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From dchamp1337 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 19:19:17 2018
From: dchamp1337 at gmail.com (David Champion)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 13:19:17 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] December Meeting: 12/19
In-Reply-To: <CAC7WSo+DFm9GDe1F_Y-UMCmoOOf6EFnpZM0OhgPOMdaq8Djy4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGxr9boMkDcQR-3jYU2byYXyRx+Bzn5N9OoK2OmrWNWgLQ76+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJ7QWVPut0cvcRC7GSVXxTyLBiudkxgrkSEbxO5ctgNt=tgtuA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for coming to see us at Area515 last night. The holiday light show
presentation was interesting to see.

Reminder: Anyone is welcome to come visit the Area515 makerspace on the
Tuesday open house nights starting at 7pm. We won't have an open house on
the 25th, but we'll be having a hack-a-thon to work on space improvements
and other projects starting at about 1pm on Tuesday 1/1.

We also have classes about once a month, Jim Kraii is doing the class on
1/19 on "Stabilizing Coatings", using resins with wood or rock.

-dc

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM chris rheinherren <c.rheinherren at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I can't make this today. Any chance of a transcript being available
> afterwards
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 2:54 AM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com wrote:
>
> > Reminder that the Maker's space (at their new location) will be hosting
> our
> > meeting this Wednesday. Jared will be presenting on using linux to
> > coordinate lights and sound.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:46 PM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The Makers at Area 515 have volunteered to host us for our December
> > > Meeting at their new location.
> > >
> > >
> > >> - title: "December Meeting: TBD and tour of new Area 515 Maker's
> space"
> > >> group: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group (CIALUG)"
> > >> location: "Area 515 108 Jefferson Avenue, Des Moines IA"
> > >>
> > >> details_url: "https://www.cialug.org/?page_id=7&event_id=1087"
> > >>
> > >> date: "December 19"
> > >> time: "7:00 - 8:30 pm"
> > >>
> > >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From dave at 58ghz.net  Fri Dec 21 20:54:36 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 14:54:36 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
Message-ID: <CADYn_tvdYX3XN8inFuTB6=Pp7xAo7fDWgYWgg4QYj1K=S_WQWg@mail.gmail.com>

We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting getting
a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs and
tried some vm's from osboxes.org

No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I had
assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was running
Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.

After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and everything
just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make the
move...

:) Dave
-- 
NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.

From dchamp1337 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 20:57:55 2018
From: dchamp1337 at gmail.com (David Champion)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 14:57:55 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
In-Reply-To: <CADYn_tvdYX3XN8inFuTB6=Pp7xAo7fDWgYWgg4QYj1K=S_WQWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADYn_tvdYX3XN8inFuTB6=Pp7xAo7fDWgYWgg4QYj1K=S_WQWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ7QWVO0cRZpkRSLk00cpQB=vJVPcSa-e0m+NcpZOnf_Db0X2Q@mail.gmail.com>

I'm running a CentOS 7 KDE gui vm in Virtualbox with a MacOS host, it works
fine.

So... exactly what you're trying except everything is different.

-dc

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting getting
> a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs and
> tried some vm's from osboxes.org
>
> No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I had
> assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was running
> Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
>
> After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and everything
> just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make the
> move...
>
> :) Dave
> --
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From dave at 58ghz.net  Fri Dec 21 21:00:10 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:00:10 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
In-Reply-To: <CAJ7QWVO0cRZpkRSLk00cpQB=vJVPcSa-e0m+NcpZOnf_Db0X2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADYn_tvdYX3XN8inFuTB6=Pp7xAo7fDWgYWgg4QYj1K=S_WQWg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ7QWVO0cRZpkRSLk00cpQB=vJVPcSa-e0m+NcpZOnf_Db0X2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADYn_tt8cmxHoTbvgCyNBw7vWzKu5aaCH9cUyGyGe=rR6GUb0A@mail.gmail.com>

Did you use a prebuilt vm? If so which one?  Are you using VB 5.2 or VB 6?

:) Dave

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:59 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm running a CentOS 7 KDE gui vm in Virtualbox with a MacOS host, it works
> fine.
>
> So... exactly what you're trying except everything is different.
>
> -dc
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting
> getting
> > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs and
> > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
> >
> > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I had
> > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was running
> > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
> >
> > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and everything
> > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make the
> > move...
> >
> > :) Dave
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


-- 
NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.

From dchamp1337 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 21:03:12 2018
From: dchamp1337 at gmail.com (David Champion)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:03:12 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
In-Reply-To: <CADYn_tt8cmxHoTbvgCyNBw7vWzKu5aaCH9cUyGyGe=rR6GUb0A@mail.gmail.com>
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I installed from the standard CentOS 7 iso. Running VirtualBox 5.2.22.

-dc

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:01 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> Did you use a prebuilt vm? If so which one?  Are you using VB 5.2 or VB 6?
>
> :) Dave
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:59 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm running a CentOS 7 KDE gui vm in Virtualbox with a MacOS host, it
> works
> > fine.
> >
> > So... exactly what you're trying except everything is different.
> >
> > -dc
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >
> > > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting
> > getting
> > > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs and
> > > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
> > >
> > > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I had
> > > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was running
> > > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
> > >
> > > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and
> everything
> > > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make the
> > > move...
> > >
> > > :) Dave
> > > --
> > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
>
>
> --
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> _______________________________________________
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> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From dave at 58ghz.net  Fri Dec 21 21:38:02 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:38:02 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
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I'm gonna try a clean centos 7 install with KDE plasma and see what happens.

:) Dave

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:04 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I installed from the standard CentOS 7 iso. Running VirtualBox 5.2.22.
>
> -dc
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:01 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> > Did you use a prebuilt vm? If so which one?  Are you using VB 5.2 or VB
> 6?
> >
> > :) Dave
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:59 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm running a CentOS 7 KDE gui vm in Virtualbox with a MacOS host, it
> > works
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > So... exactly what you're trying except everything is different.
> > >
> > > -dc
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting
> > > getting
> > > > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs
> and
> > > > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
> > > >
> > > > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I
> had
> > > > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was
> running
> > > > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
> > > >
> > > > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and
> > everything
> > > > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make
> the
> > > > move...
> > > >
> > > > :) Dave
> > > > --
> > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> Organizations.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


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From kristau at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 21:48:31 2018
From: kristau at gmail.com (kristau)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:48:31 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
In-Reply-To: <CADYn_tvdYX3XN8inFuTB6=Pp7xAo7fDWgYWgg4QYj1K=S_WQWg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAM+7bFTMg-cu0pT=SpzTjTXLDcLRi1hmqZpJbnKTc8v0i-dyvw@mail.gmail.com>

Potentially related, potentially not.

I recently applied the latest updates to a CentOS 7 vm installed on my
Mac under VirtaulBox (forget the version). I also updated the VB
Additions. During the VB Additions update, there was an error. When I
rebooted the vm, the screen resolution was maxxed out at about
1024x768. Digging in the logs, there was an "invalid parameter" in the
kernel headers while trying to compile the video module for the VB
Additions. I suspect either a C7 update or the new Additions are
busted. I'm going to hold out and see if the next update cycle fixes
it. Otherwise I will probably switch to a different distro.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting getting
> a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs and
> tried some vm's from osboxes.org
>
> No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I had
> assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was running
> Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
>
> After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and everything
> just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make the
> move...
>
> :) Dave
> --
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug



-- 
Tired programmer
Coding late into the night
The core dump follows

From dave at 58ghz.net  Fri Dec 21 22:36:25 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 16:36:25 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
In-Reply-To: <CAM+7bFTMg-cu0pT=SpzTjTXLDcLRi1hmqZpJbnKTc8v0i-dyvw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADYn_tvdYX3XN8inFuTB6=Pp7xAo7fDWgYWgg4QYj1K=S_WQWg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADYn_tstXuhoQw0XCNPHimij481VAQGMLBkGSV5KpQDQkgMubg@mail.gmail.com>

I just did a fresh install with centos 7 dvd and kde plasma work spaces,
installed the kernel headers, etc.  Now I can't install the vb additions
and the desktop keeps freezing.

Grrr....

:) Dave




On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:49 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:

> Potentially related, potentially not.
>
> I recently applied the latest updates to a CentOS 7 vm installed on my
> Mac under VirtaulBox (forget the version). I also updated the VB
> Additions. During the VB Additions update, there was an error. When I
> rebooted the vm, the screen resolution was maxxed out at about
> 1024x768. Digging in the logs, there was an "invalid parameter" in the
> kernel headers while trying to compile the video module for the VB
> Additions. I suspect either a C7 update or the new Additions are
> busted. I'm going to hold out and see if the next update cycle fixes
> it. Otherwise I will probably switch to a different distro.
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >
> > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting
> getting
> > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs and
> > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
> >
> > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I had
> > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was running
> > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
> >
> > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and everything
> > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make the
> > move...
> >
> > :) Dave
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>
>
>
> --
> Tired programmer
> Coding late into the night
> The core dump follows
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


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From dave at 58ghz.net  Sat Dec 22 00:05:34 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:05:34 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
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I did a clean install from the ISO DVD, got everything working with KDE
Plasma workspaces then I installed the guest additions and now it captures
the mouse, but I can't click on anything.   So... I'm guessing there is
something up with guest additions from VB 5.2.22    I'm debating on if I
should try the same process with VB 6.0

:) Dave






On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:36 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> I just did a fresh install with centos 7 dvd and kde plasma work spaces,
> installed the kernel headers, etc.  Now I can't install the vb additions
> and the desktop keeps freezing.
>
> Grrr....
>
> :) Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:49 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Potentially related, potentially not.
>>
>> I recently applied the latest updates to a CentOS 7 vm installed on my
>> Mac under VirtaulBox (forget the version). I also updated the VB
>> Additions. During the VB Additions update, there was an error. When I
>> rebooted the vm, the screen resolution was maxxed out at about
>> 1024x768. Digging in the logs, there was an "invalid parameter" in the
>> kernel headers while trying to compile the video module for the VB
>> Additions. I suspect either a C7 update or the new Additions are
>> busted. I'm going to hold out and see if the next update cycle fixes
>> it. Otherwise I will probably switch to a different distro.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting
>> getting
>> > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs and
>> > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
>> >
>> > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I had
>> > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was running
>> > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
>> >
>> > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and
>> everything
>> > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make the
>> > move...
>> >
>> > :) Dave
>> > --
>> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Cialug mailing list
>> > Cialug at cialug.org
>> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tired programmer
>> Coding late into the night
>> The core dump follows
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cialug mailing list
>> Cialug at cialug.org
>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>>
>
>
> --
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
>


-- 
NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.

From dchamp1337 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 00:27:05 2018
From: dchamp1337 at gmail.com (David Champion)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:27:05 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
In-Reply-To: <CADYn_tuQJssV2mcd1CgqZMKxF6X+Q80iSvY2XOFc6P6JkcMq6g@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CADYn_tstXuhoQw0XCNPHimij481VAQGMLBkGSV5KpQDQkgMubg@mail.gmail.com>
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Just checked mine, looks like it is also not working now. Must have been a
recent update to VirtualBox that broke it.

-dc

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:06 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> I did a clean install from the ISO DVD, got everything working with KDE
> Plasma workspaces then I installed the guest additions and now it captures
> the mouse, but I can't click on anything.   So... I'm guessing there is
> something up with guest additions from VB 5.2.22    I'm debating on if I
> should try the same process with VB 6.0
>
> :) Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:36 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> > I just did a fresh install with centos 7 dvd and kde plasma work spaces,
> > installed the kernel headers, etc.  Now I can't install the vb additions
> > and the desktop keeps freezing.
> >
> > Grrr....
> >
> > :) Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:49 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Potentially related, potentially not.
> >>
> >> I recently applied the latest updates to a CentOS 7 vm installed on my
> >> Mac under VirtaulBox (forget the version). I also updated the VB
> >> Additions. During the VB Additions update, there was an error. When I
> >> rebooted the vm, the screen resolution was maxxed out at about
> >> 1024x768. Digging in the logs, there was an "invalid parameter" in the
> >> kernel headers while trying to compile the video module for the VB
> >> Additions. I suspect either a C7 update or the new Additions are
> >> busted. I'm going to hold out and see if the next update cycle fixes
> >> it. Otherwise I will probably switch to a different distro.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting
> >> getting
> >> > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs and
> >> > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
> >> >
> >> > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I
> had
> >> > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was
> running
> >> > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
> >> >
> >> > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and
> >> everything
> >> > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make
> the
> >> > move...
> >> >
> >> > :) Dave
> >> > --
> >> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> Organizations.
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Cialug mailing list
> >> > Cialug at cialug.org
> >> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tired programmer
> >> Coding late into the night
> >> The core dump follows
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Cialug mailing list
> >> Cialug at cialug.org
> >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> >
>
>
> --
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From dave at 58ghz.net  Sat Dec 22 01:21:23 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 19:21:23 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
In-Reply-To: <CAJ7QWVOd7k1QZ1_1YT-ZJ4Acftr2JTftX95d3GOqxCcarjHypg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADYn_tvdYX3XN8inFuTB6=Pp7xAo7fDWgYWgg4QYj1K=S_WQWg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CADYn_tstXuhoQw0XCNPHimij481VAQGMLBkGSV5KpQDQkgMubg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADYn_tuQJssV2mcd1CgqZMKxF6X+Q80iSvY2XOFc6P6JkcMq6g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADYn_tsm=hno=4iHnYc6eQw8z_Mwj_gqwiJOYZmjZ7d7xP+6ug@mail.gmail.com>

I just did a downgrade to VB 5.1.38, did  a fresh Centos7 install, added
the guest editions and the guest additions are still not working.

:) Dave

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:28 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just checked mine, looks like it is also not working now. Must have been a
> recent update to VirtualBox that broke it.
>
> -dc
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:06 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> > I did a clean install from the ISO DVD, got everything working with KDE
> > Plasma workspaces then I installed the guest additions and now it
> captures
> > the mouse, but I can't click on anything.   So... I'm guessing there is
> > something up with guest additions from VB 5.2.22    I'm debating on if I
> > should try the same process with VB 6.0
> >
> > :) Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:36 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I just did a fresh install with centos 7 dvd and kde plasma work
> spaces,
> > > installed the kernel headers, etc.  Now I can't install the vb
> additions
> > > and the desktop keeps freezing.
> > >
> > > Grrr....
> > >
> > > :) Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:49 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Potentially related, potentially not.
> > >>
> > >> I recently applied the latest updates to a CentOS 7 vm installed on my
> > >> Mac under VirtaulBox (forget the version). I also updated the VB
> > >> Additions. During the VB Additions update, there was an error. When I
> > >> rebooted the vm, the screen resolution was maxxed out at about
> > >> 1024x768. Digging in the logs, there was an "invalid parameter" in the
> > >> kernel headers while trying to compile the video module for the VB
> > >> Additions. I suspect either a C7 update or the new Additions are
> > >> busted. I'm going to hold out and see if the next update cycle fixes
> > >> it. Otherwise I will probably switch to a different distro.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting
> > >> getting
> > >> > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs
> and
> > >> > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
> > >> >
> > >> > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I
> > had
> > >> > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was
> > running
> > >> > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
> > >> >
> > >> > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and
> > >> everything
> > >> > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make
> > the
> > >> > move...
> > >> >
> > >> > :) Dave
> > >> > --
> > >> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> > Organizations.
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > Cialug mailing list
> > >> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > >> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Tired programmer
> > >> Coding late into the night
> > >> The core dump follows
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Cialug mailing list
> > >> Cialug at cialug.org
> > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


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From fromj2sitsme at msn.com  Sat Dec 22 02:08:10 2018
From: fromj2sitsme at msn.com (Jared Brees)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 02:08:10 +0000
Subject: [Cialug] December Meeting: 12/19
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Chris, I've posted my slides here:
https://r.ageek.us/cialug20181219

A lot of it was just describing the pictures, though.
________________________________
From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of chris rheinherren <c.rheinherren at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 19:01
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Cialug] December Meeting: 12/19

I can't make this today. Any chance of a transcript being available
afterwards


On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 2:54 AM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com wrote:

> Reminder that the Maker's space (at their new location) will be hosting our
> meeting this Wednesday. Jared will be presenting on using linux to
> coordinate lights and sound.
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:46 PM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The Makers at Area 515 have volunteered to host us for our December
> > Meeting at their new location.
> >
> >
> >> - title: "December Meeting: TBD and tour of new Area 515 Maker's space"
> >> group: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group (CIALUG)"
> >> location: "Area 515 108 Jefferson Avenue, Des Moines IA"
> >>
> >> details_url: "https://www.cialug.org/?page_id=7&event_id=1087"
> >>
> >> date: "December 19"
> >> time: "7:00 - 8:30 pm"
> >>
> >>
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>
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From kristau at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 03:52:19 2018
From: kristau at gmail.com (kristau)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 21:52:19 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
In-Reply-To: <CADYn_tsm=hno=4iHnYc6eQw8z_Mwj_gqwiJOYZmjZ7d7xP+6ug@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAM+7bFQTKdjdsVumo1-_PjVtxF0n4n5stBf6TrPXK53=21Qo9Q@mail.gmail.com>

I just upgraded from Virtual Box 5.2.22 to 6.0.0 and upgraded the VB
tools on my C7 vm to the 6.0.0 version. I did not see any errors
during that installation. I rebooted the VM and everything appears to
be back to normal now.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 7:22 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> I just did a downgrade to VB 5.1.38, did  a fresh Centos7 install, added
> the guest editions and the guest additions are still not working.
>
> :) Dave
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:28 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just checked mine, looks like it is also not working now. Must have been a
> > recent update to VirtualBox that broke it.
> >
> > -dc
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:06 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I did a clean install from the ISO DVD, got everything working with KDE
> > > Plasma workspaces then I installed the guest additions and now it
> > captures
> > > the mouse, but I can't click on anything.   So... I'm guessing there is
> > > something up with guest additions from VB 5.2.22    I'm debating on if I
> > > should try the same process with VB 6.0
> > >
> > > :) Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:36 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just did a fresh install with centos 7 dvd and kde plasma work
> > spaces,
> > > > installed the kernel headers, etc.  Now I can't install the vb
> > additions
> > > > and the desktop keeps freezing.
> > > >
> > > > Grrr....
> > > >
> > > > :) Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:49 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Potentially related, potentially not.
> > > >>
> > > >> I recently applied the latest updates to a CentOS 7 vm installed on my
> > > >> Mac under VirtaulBox (forget the version). I also updated the VB
> > > >> Additions. During the VB Additions update, there was an error. When I
> > > >> rebooted the vm, the screen resolution was maxxed out at about
> > > >> 1024x768. Digging in the logs, there was an "invalid parameter" in the
> > > >> kernel headers while trying to compile the video module for the VB
> > > >> Additions. I suspect either a C7 update or the new Additions are
> > > >> busted. I'm going to hold out and see if the next update cycle fixes
> > > >> it. Otherwise I will probably switch to a different distro.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been fighting
> > > >> getting
> > > >> > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain installs
> > and
> > > >> > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
> > > >> >
> > > >> > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome) running. I
> > > had
> > > >> > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was
> > > running
> > > >> > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and
> > > >> everything
> > > >> > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and make
> > > the
> > > >> > move...
> > > >> >
> > > >> > :) Dave
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> > > Organizations.
> > > >> > _______________________________________________
> > > >> > Cialug mailing list
> > > >> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > >> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Tired programmer
> > > >> Coding late into the night
> > > >> The core dump follows
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> Cialug mailing list
> > > >> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
>
>
> --
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug



-- 
Tired programmer
Coding late into the night
The core dump follows

From dave at 58ghz.net  Sat Dec 22 09:02:09 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:02:09 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
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Interesting.  I did finally get the extensions to work on 5.1.38 (windows
10), apparently I missed a reboot of the vm somewhere during the process.
  Now that I have a base VM that works I need to get gnome to run at
2560x1440 and have the window automatically resize.   I'll see if I can get
dconf-editor loaded and tweak gnome.

Maybe later I'll try moving this vm into VB 6.0.0... Maybe I'm a little
rusty, but I don't remember VB being such a challenge.

:) Dave




On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:53 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just upgraded from Virtual Box 5.2.22 to 6.0.0 and upgraded the VB
> tools on my C7 vm to the 6.0.0 version. I did not see any errors
> during that installation. I rebooted the VM and everything appears to
> be back to normal now.
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 7:22 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >
> > I just did a downgrade to VB 5.1.38, did  a fresh Centos7 install, added
> > the guest editions and the guest additions are still not working.
> >
> > :) Dave
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:28 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Just checked mine, looks like it is also not working now. Must have
> been a
> > > recent update to VirtualBox that broke it.
> > >
> > > -dc
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:06 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I did a clean install from the ISO DVD, got everything working with
> KDE
> > > > Plasma workspaces then I installed the guest additions and now it
> > > captures
> > > > the mouse, but I can't click on anything.   So... I'm guessing there
> is
> > > > something up with guest additions from VB 5.2.22    I'm debating on
> if I
> > > > should try the same process with VB 6.0
> > > >
> > > > :) Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:36 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I just did a fresh install with centos 7 dvd and kde plasma work
> > > spaces,
> > > > > installed the kernel headers, etc.  Now I can't install the vb
> > > additions
> > > > > and the desktop keeps freezing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Grrr....
> > > > >
> > > > > :) Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:49 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Potentially related, potentially not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I recently applied the latest updates to a CentOS 7 vm installed
> on my
> > > > >> Mac under VirtaulBox (forget the version). I also updated the VB
> > > > >> Additions. During the VB Additions update, there was an error.
> When I
> > > > >> rebooted the vm, the screen resolution was maxxed out at about
> > > > >> 1024x768. Digging in the logs, there was an "invalid parameter"
> in the
> > > > >> kernel headers while trying to compile the video module for the VB
> > > > >> Additions. I suspect either a C7 update or the new Additions are
> > > > >> busted. I'm going to hold out and see if the next update cycle
> fixes
> > > > >> it. Otherwise I will probably switch to a different distro.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been
> fighting
> > > > >> getting
> > > > >> > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain
> installs
> > > and
> > > > >> > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome)
> running. I
> > > > had
> > > > >> > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was
> > > > running
> > > > >> > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and
> > > > >> everything
> > > > >> > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and
> make
> > > > the
> > > > >> > move...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > :) Dave
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> > > > Organizations.
> > > > >> > _______________________________________________
> > > > >> > Cialug mailing list
> > > > >> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > >> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Tired programmer
> > > > >> Coding late into the night
> > > > >> The core dump follows
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >> Cialug mailing list
> > > > >> Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> Organizations.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
> Organizations.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>
>
>
> --
> Tired programmer
> Coding late into the night
> The core dump follows
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


-- 
NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.

From dave at 58ghz.net  Sat Dec 22 13:06:22 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 07:06:22 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] I'm so bummed
In-Reply-To: <CADYn_tv+yQKD1d+eJSBBe8kZEHn9Hza1A7mqgScSSsxLSj5o7Q@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm back on vb 5.2.2 and I have guest extensions working correctly with
with default gnome configuration.  I'm still working getting the display to
resize correctly.  I suspect the problem is that VM isn't loading
vboxvideo.    I'm not having much luck trying to fix this issue.  Anyone
have any ideas?

   19.715] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    19.715]    compiled for 1.20.1, module version = 1.0.0
[    19.715]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0
[    19.715] (==) Matched vboxvideo as autoconfigured driver 0
[    19.715] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 1
[    19.715] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 2
[    19.715] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 3
[    19.715] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[    19.715] (II) LoadModule: "vboxvideo"
[    19.716] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vboxvideo
[    19.716] (EE) Failed to load module "vboxvideo" (module does not exist,
0)
[    19.716] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[

On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 3:02 AM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> Interesting.  I did finally get the extensions to work on 5.1.38 (windows
> 10), apparently I missed a reboot of the vm somewhere during the process.
>   Now that I have a base VM that works I need to get gnome to run at
> 2560x1440 and have the window automatically resize.   I'll see if I can get
> dconf-editor loaded and tweak gnome.
>
> Maybe later I'll try moving this vm into VB 6.0.0... Maybe I'm a little
> rusty, but I don't remember VB being such a challenge.
>
> :) Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:53 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just upgraded from Virtual Box 5.2.22 to 6.0.0 and upgraded the VB
>> tools on my C7 vm to the 6.0.0 version. I did not see any errors
>> during that installation. I rebooted the VM and everything appears to
>> be back to normal now.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 7:22 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I just did a downgrade to VB 5.1.38, did  a fresh Centos7 install, added
>> > the guest editions and the guest additions are still not working.
>> >
>> > :) Dave
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:28 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Just checked mine, looks like it is also not working now. Must have
>> been a
>> > > recent update to VirtualBox that broke it.
>> > >
>> > > -dc
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:06 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I did a clean install from the ISO DVD, got everything working with
>> KDE
>> > > > Plasma workspaces then I installed the guest additions and now it
>> > > captures
>> > > > the mouse, but I can't click on anything.   So... I'm guessing
>> there is
>> > > > something up with guest additions from VB 5.2.22    I'm debating on
>> if I
>> > > > should try the same process with VB 6.0
>> > > >
>> > > > :) Dave
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:36 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I just did a fresh install with centos 7 dvd and kde plasma work
>> > > spaces,
>> > > > > installed the kernel headers, etc.  Now I can't install the vb
>> > > additions
>> > > > > and the desktop keeps freezing.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Grrr....
>> > > > >
>> > > > > :) Dave
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:49 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Potentially related, potentially not.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I recently applied the latest updates to a CentOS 7 vm installed
>> on my
>> > > > >> Mac under VirtaulBox (forget the version). I also updated the VB
>> > > > >> Additions. During the VB Additions update, there was an error.
>> When I
>> > > > >> rebooted the vm, the screen resolution was maxxed out at about
>> > > > >> 1024x768. Digging in the logs, there was an "invalid parameter"
>> in the
>> > > > >> kernel headers while trying to compile the video module for the
>> VB
>> > > > >> Additions. I suspect either a C7 update or the new Additions are
>> > > > >> busted. I'm going to hold out and see if the next update cycle
>> fixes
>> > > > >> it. Otherwise I will probably switch to a different distro.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:55 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > We're  a centos shop.   The last couple of days I've been
>> fighting
>> > > > >> getting
>> > > > >> > a VB centos 7.x vm running.   I've done a couple of plain
>> installs
>> > > and
>> > > > >> > tried some vm's from osboxes.org
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > No luck with trying to get graphical environment (gnome)
>> running. I
>> > > > had
>> > > > >> > assumed the main problem was the fact that the windows host was
>> > > > running
>> > > > >> > Ryzen cpu.   It doesn't work on an intel host either.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > After many failed attempts, I loaded up a Ubunto cosmic vm and
>> > > > >> everything
>> > > > >> > just works.   Looks like I might have to give up on centos and
>> make
>> > > > the
>> > > > >> > move...
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > :) Dave
>> > > > >> > --
>> > > > >> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
>> > > > Organizations.
>> > > > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > > > >> > Cialug mailing list
>> > > > >> > Cialug at cialug.org
>> > > > >> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> --
>> > > > >> Tired programmer
>> > > > >> Coding late into the night
>> > > > >> The core dump follows
>> > > > >> _______________________________________________
>> > > > >> Cialug mailing list
>> > > > >> Cialug at cialug.org
>> > > > >> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
>> Organizations.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit
>> Organizations.
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > Cialug mailing list
>> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
>> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>> > > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Cialug mailing list
>> > > Cialug at cialug.org
>> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Cialug mailing list
>> > Cialug at cialug.org
>> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tired programmer
>> Coding late into the night
>> The core dump follows
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cialug mailing list
>> Cialug at cialug.org
>> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>>
>
>
> --
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>


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From dave at 58ghz.net  Sun Dec 23 13:01:37 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 07:01:37 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Success!
Message-ID: <CADYn_tsSK970LiKePZam0M+gAd_2-dXxXtOBkV+ZpV9i8_uTnA@mail.gmail.com>

I did get Centos 7 to with function correctly with VB  as a guest Vm.

Here's  the process:

Install VB 6.0 on a windows 10 host.
Create a new VM using the osboxes Centos 7  image
yum install kernel-headers, kernel-develop & gcc
reboot
yum update
reboot
install VB guest editions
reboot

Its looks like there are some issues with the VB guest additions with
Centos 7 for any version of VB < 5.1.30

Its a little painful getting started.  You couldn't see the mouse cursor
with the VM using the base image. Even with the mouse captured, it wouldn't
function correctly until the guest editions were installed.  I ended up
having to use the keyboard to navigate.   You might have better luck
starting with a fresh image rather than using a pre-made image.

Looks like I can stick with Centos for a while.  However, with Ubuntu there
was a lot less pain.  In the future I'm probably going to take a hard look
at Ubuntu LTS.  Its desktop functions, are clearly a couple of steps beyond
Centos.

I think still that Centos is probably superior on the server side. Ubuntu
LTS certainly is a contender, especially if you want to have a machine  for
development that use same platform that you run on. The advantage would be
that Ubuntu is less painful on the development side.

:) Dave
-- 
NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.

From kristau at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 18:50:52 2018
From: kristau at gmail.com (kristau)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 12:50:52 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Success!
In-Reply-To: <CADYn_tsSK970LiKePZam0M+gAd_2-dXxXtOBkV+ZpV9i8_uTnA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADYn_tsSK970LiKePZam0M+gAd_2-dXxXtOBkV+ZpV9i8_uTnA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM+7bFTyNGVwEKMzC5nZwS3CDvArbPMnK-HVO-5DPdOSFx4z9A@mail.gmail.com>

Glad you found the winning combination!

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 7:02 AM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> I did get Centos 7 to with function correctly with VB  as a guest Vm.
>
> Here's  the process:
>
> Install VB 6.0 on a windows 10 host.
> Create a new VM using the osboxes Centos 7  image
> yum install kernel-headers, kernel-develop & gcc
> reboot
> yum update
> reboot
> install VB guest editions
> reboot
>
> Its looks like there are some issues with the VB guest additions with
> Centos 7 for any version of VB < 5.1.30
>
> Its a little painful getting started.  You couldn't see the mouse cursor
> with the VM using the base image. Even with the mouse captured, it wouldn't
> function correctly until the guest editions were installed.  I ended up
> having to use the keyboard to navigate.   You might have better luck
> starting with a fresh image rather than using a pre-made image.
>
> Looks like I can stick with Centos for a while.  However, with Ubuntu there
> was a lot less pain.  In the future I'm probably going to take a hard look
> at Ubuntu LTS.  Its desktop functions, are clearly a couple of steps beyond
> Centos.
>
> I think still that Centos is probably superior on the server side. Ubuntu
> LTS certainly is a contender, especially if you want to have a machine  for
> development that use same platform that you run on. The advantage would be
> that Ubuntu is less painful on the development side.
>
> :) Dave
> --
> NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug



-- 
Tired programmer
Coding late into the night
The core dump follows

From dave at 58ghz.net  Sun Dec 23 21:26:34 2018
From: dave at 58ghz.net (Dave Hala)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 15:26:34 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Success!
In-Reply-To: <CAM+7bFTyNGVwEKMzC5nZwS3CDvArbPMnK-HVO-5DPdOSFx4z9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADYn_tsSK970LiKePZam0M+gAd_2-dXxXtOBkV+ZpV9i8_uTnA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM+7bFTyNGVwEKMzC5nZwS3CDvArbPMnK-HVO-5DPdOSFx4z9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADYn_tvMU0g7-LPgUQG5F7yN6uw0ngL0oh0wpMvGRzxF2fwBeQ@mail.gmail.com>

There's one more thing.... after short period of time the mouse buttons
would stop responding.  In virtualbox settings,  system/motherboard, you
need to change the Pointing device option from "ps2 mouse to "usb tablet"
if your host uses a usb mouse.

:) Dave

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:51 PM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:

> Glad you found the winning combination!
>
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 7:02 AM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >
> > I did get Centos 7 to with function correctly with VB  as a guest Vm.
> >
> > Here's  the process:
> >
> > Install VB 6.0 on a windows 10 host.
> > Create a new VM using the osboxes Centos 7  image
> > yum install kernel-headers, kernel-develop & gcc
> > reboot
> > yum update
> > reboot
> > install VB guest editions
> > reboot
> >
> > Its looks like there are some issues with the VB guest additions with
> > Centos 7 for any version of VB < 5.1.30
> >
> > Its a little painful getting started.  You couldn't see the mouse cursor
> > with the VM using the base image. Even with the mouse captured, it
> wouldn't
> > function correctly until the guest editions were installed.  I ended up
> > having to use the keyboard to navigate.   You might have better luck
> > starting with a fresh image rather than using a pre-made image.
> >
> > Looks like I can stick with Centos for a while.  However, with Ubuntu
> there
> > was a lot less pain.  In the future I'm probably going to take a hard
> look
> > at Ubuntu LTS.  Its desktop functions, are clearly a couple of steps
> beyond
> > Centos.
> >
> > I think still that Centos is probably superior on the server side. Ubuntu
> > LTS certainly is a contender, especially if you want to have a machine
> for
> > development that use same platform that you run on. The advantage would
> be
> > that Ubuntu is less painful on the development side.
> >
> > :) Dave
> > --
> > NIFCAP  -The Premier Client Intake System for Non-Profit Organizations.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>
>
>
> --
> Tired programmer
> Coding late into the night
> The core dump follows
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>


-- 
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From djweis at sjdjweis.com  Wed Dec 26 19:37:05 2018
From: djweis at sjdjweis.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 13:37:05 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Open SSL and cert help
Message-ID: <CAENx1OtCUv9B0-jD0M7iq3Dne3Cdp6A7pb8iwM09aY-FuYfqrA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

I need to access a site with wget to download files. I have the CA and
private cert added to Chrome and it works fine. I don't remember how I did
this in the past but have the pfx file that I exported.

[djweis at grand RLD]$ wget -v --no-check-certificate --certificate=cacert.crt
--private-key=privatekey.pem --private-key-type=pem
https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
--2018-12-26 13:35:58--  https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
OpenSSL: error:0B080074:x509 certificate
routines:X509_check_private_key:key values mismatch
Disabling SSL due to encountered errors.

It's been a long time since I used the openssl command line. Any
suggestions?

thanks
dave

From Scott at yatesframe.com  Wed Dec 26 21:16:41 2018
From: Scott at yatesframe.com (Scott Yates)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:16:41 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Open SSL and cert help
In-Reply-To: <CAENx1OtCUv9B0-jD0M7iq3Dne3Cdp6A7pb8iwM09aY-FuYfqrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAENx1OtCUv9B0-jD0M7iq3Dne3Cdp6A7pb8iwM09aY-FuYfqrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM_0QiVXmMyAynMjJvutNToG8d415XOD3KdvrugPewQNYLGjYw@mail.gmail.com>

I thought all you needed was the --no-check-certificate and could skip the
other options (except -v of course if you want it)


On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 1:38 PM Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I need to access a site with wget to download files. I have the CA and
> private cert added to Chrome and it works fine. I don't remember how I did
> this in the past but have the pfx file that I exported.
>
> [djweis at grand RLD]$ wget -v --no-check-certificate
> --certificate=cacert.crt
> --private-key=privatekey.pem --private-key-type=pem
> https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> --2018-12-26 13:35:58--  https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> OpenSSL: error:0B080074:x509 certificate
> routines:X509_check_private_key:key values mismatch
> Disabling SSL due to encountered errors.
>
> It's been a long time since I used the openssl command line. Any
> suggestions?
>
> thanks
> dave
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From djweis at sjdjweis.com  Wed Dec 26 21:50:02 2018
From: djweis at sjdjweis.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:50:02 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Open SSL and cert help
In-Reply-To: <CAM_0QiVXmMyAynMjJvutNToG8d415XOD3KdvrugPewQNYLGjYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAENx1OtCUv9B0-jD0M7iq3Dne3Cdp6A7pb8iwM09aY-FuYfqrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM_0QiVXmMyAynMjJvutNToG8d415XOD3KdvrugPewQNYLGjYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAENx1Ou1N3mnY_wcQa5m+dxN0ssT6Z=WP+CdhgaQKmAGBWecfQ@mail.gmail.com>

I need to present a private certificate to them that they generated and
accept their CA certificate. Neither of those are correctly occurring with
the wget command.




On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:18 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:

> I thought all you needed was the --no-check-certificate and could skip the
> other options (except -v of course if you want it)
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 1:38 PM Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I need to access a site with wget to download files. I have the CA and
> > private cert added to Chrome and it works fine. I don't remember how I
> did
> > this in the past but have the pfx file that I exported.
> >
> > [djweis at grand RLD]$ wget -v --no-check-certificate
> > --certificate=cacert.crt
> > --private-key=privatekey.pem --private-key-type=pem
> > https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> > --2018-12-26 13:35:58--  https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> > OpenSSL: error:0B080074:x509 certificate
> > routines:X509_check_private_key:key values mismatch
> > Disabling SSL due to encountered errors.
> >
> > It's been a long time since I used the openssl command line. Any
> > suggestions?
> >
> > thanks
> > dave
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From Scott at yatesframe.com  Wed Dec 26 22:02:51 2018
From: Scott at yatesframe.com (Scott Yates)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:02:51 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Open SSL and cert help
In-Reply-To: <CAENx1Ou1N3mnY_wcQa5m+dxN0ssT6Z=WP+CdhgaQKmAGBWecfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAENx1OtCUv9B0-jD0M7iq3Dne3Cdp6A7pb8iwM09aY-FuYfqrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM_0QiVXmMyAynMjJvutNToG8d415XOD3KdvrugPewQNYLGjYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAENx1Ou1N3mnY_wcQa5m+dxN0ssT6Z=WP+CdhgaQKmAGBWecfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM_0QiUwJjZc4c5wbEkOMui9aF=9bJx4nKa-7K89uqhkrJET6w@mail.gmail.com>

Ahh, sorry, i have not done that yet.  I wonder if curl would do that
better perhaps?

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:51 PM Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com> wrote:

> I need to present a private certificate to them that they generated and
> accept their CA certificate. Neither of those are correctly occurring with
> the wget command.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:18 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:
>
> > I thought all you needed was the --no-check-certificate and could skip
> the
> > other options (except -v of course if you want it)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 1:38 PM Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I need to access a site with wget to download files. I have the CA and
> > > private cert added to Chrome and it works fine. I don't remember how I
> > did
> > > this in the past but have the pfx file that I exported.
> > >
> > > [djweis at grand RLD]$ wget -v --no-check-certificate
> > > --certificate=cacert.crt
> > > --private-key=privatekey.pem --private-key-type=pem
> > > https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> > > --2018-12-26 13:35:58--  https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> > > OpenSSL: error:0B080074:x509 certificate
> > > routines:X509_check_private_key:key values mismatch
> > > Disabling SSL due to encountered errors.
> > >
> > > It's been a long time since I used the openssl command line. Any
> > > suggestions?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > dave
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From djweis at sjdjweis.com  Wed Dec 26 22:31:26 2018
From: djweis at sjdjweis.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:31:26 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Open SSL and cert help
In-Reply-To: <CAM_0QiUwJjZc4c5wbEkOMui9aF=9bJx4nKa-7K89uqhkrJET6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAENx1OtCUv9B0-jD0M7iq3Dne3Cdp6A7pb8iwM09aY-FuYfqrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM_0QiVXmMyAynMjJvutNToG8d415XOD3KdvrugPewQNYLGjYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAENx1Ou1N3mnY_wcQa5m+dxN0ssT6Z=WP+CdhgaQKmAGBWecfQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM_0QiUwJjZc4c5wbEkOMui9aF=9bJx4nKa-7K89uqhkrJET6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAENx1OtLjQKcPU+YDvqPvA-5xMReO_EXyB0JHqQBC0PmcUkybQ@mail.gmail.com>

I think I'd have the same problem either way. In any case, I was able to
figure it out:

 openssl pkcs12 -in foo.pfx -nocerts -out key.pem

 openssl pkcs12 -in foo.pfx -clcerts -nokeys -out public.pem

 openssl rsa -in key.pem -out privatekey.pem

The last command removes the key from the cert so it can be used on the
command line without lots of retyping.

dave






On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 4:04 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:

> Ahh, sorry, i have not done that yet.  I wonder if curl would do that
> better perhaps?
>
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:51 PM Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com> wrote:
>
> > I need to present a private certificate to them that they generated and
> > accept their CA certificate. Neither of those are correctly occurring
> with
> > the wget command.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:18 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I thought all you needed was the --no-check-certificate and could skip
> > the
> > > other options (except -v of course if you want it)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 1:38 PM Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello!
> > > >
> > > > I need to access a site with wget to download files. I have the CA
> and
> > > > private cert added to Chrome and it works fine. I don't remember how
> I
> > > did
> > > > this in the past but have the pfx file that I exported.
> > > >
> > > > [djweis at grand RLD]$ wget -v --no-check-certificate
> > > > --certificate=cacert.crt
> > > > --private-key=privatekey.pem --private-key-type=pem
> > > > https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> > > > --2018-12-26 13:35:58--  https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> > > > OpenSSL: error:0B080074:x509 certificate
> > > > routines:X509_check_private_key:key values mismatch
> > > > Disabling SSL due to encountered errors.
> > > >
> > > > It's been a long time since I used the openssl command line. Any
> > > > suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > > dave
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cialug mailing list
> > > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cialug mailing list
> > > Cialug at cialug.org
> > > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> https://www.cialug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

From Scott at yatesframe.com  Wed Dec 26 22:35:58 2018
From: Scott at yatesframe.com (Scott Yates)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:35:58 -0600
Subject: [Cialug] Open SSL and cert help
In-Reply-To: <CAENx1OtLjQKcPU+YDvqPvA-5xMReO_EXyB0JHqQBC0PmcUkybQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAENx1OtCUv9B0-jD0M7iq3Dne3Cdp6A7pb8iwM09aY-FuYfqrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM_0QiVXmMyAynMjJvutNToG8d415XOD3KdvrugPewQNYLGjYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAENx1Ou1N3mnY_wcQa5m+dxN0ssT6Z=WP+CdhgaQKmAGBWecfQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM_0QiUwJjZc4c5wbEkOMui9aF=9bJx4nKa-7K89uqhkrJET6w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAENx1OtLjQKcPU+YDvqPvA-5xMReO_EXyB0JHqQBC0PmcUkybQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM_0QiXouS3T2Q2rUhdYfbX96ozwst-T_MOybPfHDMUjS8ustQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for sharing the eventual solution

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 4:32 PM Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com> wrote:

> I think I'd have the same problem either way. In any case, I was able to
> figure it out:
>
>  openssl pkcs12 -in foo.pfx -nocerts -out key.pem
>
>  openssl pkcs12 -in foo.pfx -clcerts -nokeys -out public.pem
>
>  openssl rsa -in key.pem -out privatekey.pem
>
> The last command removes the key from the cert so it can be used on the
> command line without lots of retyping.
>
> dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 4:04 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:
>
> > Ahh, sorry, i have not done that yet.  I wonder if curl would do that
> > better perhaps?
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:51 PM Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I need to present a private certificate to them that they generated and
> > > accept their CA certificate. Neither of those are correctly occurring
> > with
> > > the wget command.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:18 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I thought all you needed was the --no-check-certificate and could
> skip
> > > the
> > > > other options (except -v of course if you want it)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 1:38 PM Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello!
> > > > >
> > > > > I need to access a site with wget to download files. I have the CA
> > and
> > > > > private cert added to Chrome and it works fine. I don't remember
> how
> > I
> > > > did
> > > > > this in the past but have the pfx file that I exported.
> > > > >
> > > > > [djweis at grand RLD]$ wget -v --no-check-certificate
> > > > > --certificate=cacert.crt
> > > > > --private-key=privatekey.pem --private-key-type=pem
> > > > > https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> > > > > --2018-12-26 13:35:58--  https://rld.foo.com/rld/wtrliadt.txt
> > > > > OpenSSL: error:0B080074:x509 certificate
> > > > > routines:X509_check_private_key:key values mismatch
> > > > > Disabling SSL due to encountered errors.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's been a long time since I used the openssl command line. Any
> > > > > suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > dave
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From tdwalton at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 15:12:40 2018
From: tdwalton at gmail.com (Todd Walton)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 10:12:40 -0500
Subject: [Cialug] Bash or Terminal Output
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:54 AM Todd Walton <tdwalton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What do you want to change? Curious, maybe we all can help.
>
> With respect to the terminal, I'd like some way to signal to it that I want to lock scrolling, so if I then cat a file the contents go off the screen bottom and I can begin scrolling down at my leisure, instead of catting, then scrolling back up to the beginning. When there's a *lot* that dumps out, it can be a pain to find the last prompt. This is a simple example, so yes 'less' would work. I would like 'lock screen, scroll at leisure' to work as well. And while we're on it, some key combo or click thing to jump up and down from prompt to prompt. That'd be nice.
>
> With respect to Bash, the idea this thread began with, first of all. Run a command, it outputs, then some symbol or parameter that stood in for the contents of the output of the last command. I want to, say, 'ls', and then 'grep blah ${variable} | another_command'. After the fact. Or run a command, get output, return to prompt, and then use the keyboard to jump between fields of the previous output, and when I hit Enter it enters whatever field I was on onto the current command line. Something like 'yank'* but without having to specify it beforehand. *https://github.com/mptre/yank
>
> Also, HISTIGNORE should have a way of respecting a list of commands. If I want to HISTIGNORE all uses of 'ls', and I run "ls; rm ./file", it definitely should not ignore that. Either don't ignore it at all, or ignore just the ls part, or something.
>
> And I'd like history to go to syslog, be immutable, etc. That's not impossible, of course. But it's certainly not the default. One would just have to do the setup. It'd be nice to record the command line that was entered, the directory it was run in, the user, the timestamp, the actual command line run after alias expansion, parameter expansion, etc and so on.

Aha! I just found something kind of like this, called:

SCM Breeze:
https://github.com/scmbreeze/scm_breeze

The README is kind of confusing, but it's implementing something kind
of like what I was describing above, with running a command, seeing
the output, and *then* being able pull in parts of that output for
further processing, without having to know ahead of time that you're
going to do that.

Seems interesting. I haven't tried it yet.

--
Todd

From staticphantom at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 15:22:38 2018
From: staticphantom at gmail.com (Will)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 10:22:38 -0500
Subject: [Cialug] Bash or Terminal Output
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Please let me know if I missed the key points of this email thread.  But if
someone wants to lock screen scrolling and needs additional parsing help, I
can help but to wonder if a combination of tools like screen, grep, awk,
tee, and/or tail would be beneficial. The tools mentioned help me with my
kubernetes clusters for work in addition to looking at the outputs of my
own programs to snipe particular issues.

-Will

On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, 10:13 Todd Walton <tdwalton at gmail.com wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:54 AM Todd Walton <tdwalton at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> What do you want to change? Curious, maybe we all can help.
> >
> > With respect to the terminal, I'd like some way to signal to it that I
> want to lock scrolling, so if I then cat a file the contents go off the
> screen bottom and I can begin scrolling down at my leisure, instead of
> catting, then scrolling back up to the beginning. When there's a *lot* that
> dumps out, it can be a pain to find the last prompt. This is a simple
> example, so yes 'less' would work. I would like 'lock screen, scroll at
> leisure' to work as well. And while we're on it, some key combo or click
> thing to jump up and down from prompt to prompt. That'd be nice.
> >
> > With respect to Bash, the idea this thread began with, first of all. Run
> a command, it outputs, then some symbol or parameter that stood in for the
> contents of the output of the last command. I want to, say, 'ls', and then
> 'grep blah ${variable} | another_command'. After the fact. Or run a
> command, get output, return to prompt, and then use the keyboard to jump
> between fields of the previous output, and when I hit Enter it enters
> whatever field I was on onto the current command line. Something like
> 'yank'* but without having to specify it beforehand. *
> https://github.com/mptre/yank
> >
> > Also, HISTIGNORE should have a way of respecting a list of commands. If
> I want to HISTIGNORE all uses of 'ls', and I run "ls; rm ./file", it
> definitely should not ignore that. Either don't ignore it at all, or ignore
> just the ls part, or something.
> >
> > And I'd like history to go to syslog, be immutable, etc. That's not
> impossible, of course. But it's certainly not the default. One would just
> have to do the setup. It'd be nice to record the command line that was
> entered, the directory it was run in, the user, the timestamp, the actual
> command line run after alias expansion, parameter expansion, etc and so on.
>
> Aha! I just found something kind of like this, called:
>
> SCM Breeze:
> https://github.com/scmbreeze/scm_breeze
>
> The README is kind of confusing, but it's implementing something kind
> of like what I was describing above, with running a command, seeing
> the output, and *then* being able pull in parts of that output for
> further processing, without having to know ahead of time that you're
> going to do that.
>
> Seems interesting. I haven't tried it yet.
>
> --
> Todd
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